Re: [VFB] Re: Alaska fies

[mark romero]

Don, i first had it shown to me by the noted fly tyer/school teacher Al 
Himmel from up Syracuse way, who religiously fishes for salmon and huge 
browns on the creeks (Oak Orchard especially) and rivers up Lake Ontario 
way. He has one book out as far as i know. He calls it Mark's Carpet Fly, 
and has a whole story that goes with it,.....of course. He tyes his much 
smaller than i do however. I likes 'em BIG. I ususally use an Eagle Claw 
salt water hook. I have samples here in the gallery of mine and his. If you 
really want/need it, i can most likely get you his info. mark.....

From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Alaska fies
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:15:17 -0800
Mark,
Are you sure that the carpet fly (the original) is known as Mark's Carpet
Fly?  I've seen this too many times.  There's a generic pattern out there,
called the 'X' pattern.  Then one guy ties his version of it and it gets
called 'Joe's' 'X' pattern.  Since, as with the case of the carpet fly, the
original is obscure, the pattern then becomes known as 'Joe's X' fly,
especially if it is published in a mag, and Joe gets credited with the
originality, not just his version.
I was introduced to 'the carpet fly' over 10 years ago.  How long has
'Mark's' been around?  Not saying it's not true, but I didn't hear Mark's
name when I learned of the pattern.  It's the same with the 'deceiver fly'-
which is basicly any minnow pattern in streamer form.  Then Lefty ties up
his deceiver pattern, and that became 'Left'y Deceiver'.  Now, all minnow
patterns are versions of a Lefty's Deceiver, rather than the opposite.
The carpet flies I tied were with McFlyfoam yarn, and were the size of golf
balls.  I tied about 3 dozen of them for a guide.
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Alaska fies
> Joyce, the carpet fly is actually known as Mark's Carpet Fly. It's 
another
> Mark's pattern, not mine. I tye them though. Very simple. Just take 6
> different colors of one inch pieces of the yarn and tye in on top the
hook,
> then do the same underneath. Trim to a ball. DONE. Fly works great too.
> Personally i don't use them anymore though. I'd rather catch fish with
flies
> that take a bit of time and trouble. Backwards from a lotta folks, but
> hey..................lol. mark
>
> >From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
> >To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Alaska fies
> >Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:21:35 -0800
> >
> >Joyce,
> >
> >I'll send you a couple of mice, since you're not in the bass-bug swap.
> >Never been there, but Alaska fishers comment on how well my mice would 
do
> >up
> >there.  They just won't spring a 100 bucks for a fly to throw at trout.
I
> >don't know why...?
> >These would be shy of 'show-flies', but would have the same mousey
appeal.
> >
> >Also, a popular fly has been the 'carpet fly', a very large egg (up to
> >gold-ball size) pattern with 6 or so egg-colors (McFlyfoam yarn) all
mixed
> >up in the ball.  I've tied many of these on request for Alaska
flyfishers.
> >
> >Others are egg-cluster flies, egg-sucking leeches, sculpins, and 
frye-egg
> >flies.  (Eggs seem to be popular).
> >
> >DonO
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joyce Westphal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
> >Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 5:16 PM
> >Subject: [VFB] Re: Alaska fies
> >
> >
> > > Mark, Saw the message but am unable to attend this year. Thanks for
> > > asking me. Currently am tying for an Alaska trip in June..so those
> > > with Alaska experience, kindly let me know which flies were winners.
> > > Thanks. Joyce
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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