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Oh yes, they are! At least in my prime waters

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Staples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 5:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish

That's interesting; you don't often think of fish like the smallmouth
as being invasive. Guess it's the same with trout though.

Here's a list of a bunch of our exotics:

http://floridafisheries.com/Fishes/non-native.html



On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:42:43 +0000, mark romero
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And Jack, as to your quote way down below..............i "tagged" it
> with........."no matter how much you love what you do." mark
> 
> >From: "William Andreas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish
> >Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:55:26 -0500
> >
> >And don't forget about all the smallmouth, out competing the native
brook
> >trout populations in Maine. Most Northwesterm Maine rivers have a
mandatory
> >kill law in place for smallmouth.
> >
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From: Ken Staples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >       Sent: Thu 2/17/2005 12:28 PM
> >       To: [email protected]
> >       Cc:
> >       Subject: Re: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish
> >
> >
> >
> >       Come on down to South Florida. We have one or two invasive
species.
> >       Heck, I think we have them all except the trout!
> >
> >       FWC encourages anglers to filet & release all of them except
the
> >       peacocks. A lot of times you'll find exotics lying on the
banks where
> >       people caught them & let them die (saw an armored catfish the
other
> >       day). Lots of people eat them though. They sure can rack up
the
> >       tallies in our fly fishing club's species contest though!
> >
> >       Mayan cichlids are some of the most common. To be honest
they're a
> >       heck of a lot of fun on a 5 or 6 wt. Fight like peacocks in a
> >       bluegill's body with a snapper's teeth. Then there's the
tilapia which
> >       I can't get to take a fly.
> >
> >       Many people are starting to target them as "sport" species
including:
> >       snakeheads; clown knifefish; oscars; jaguar gapotes; and midas
> >       cichlids. I've hooked into some big jeweled cichlids that
fought like
> >       crazy. As pervasive as these things are supposed to be many of
them
> >       are actually hard to find (at least for me). I think I've seen
some
> >       snakeheads but they  could have been bowfins; it was hard to
tell.
> >       Haven't found the clowns or midas yet.
> >
> >       One of the scariest, in my mind at least, is the establishment
of
> >       burmese pythons in the everglades. I haven't seen one live yet
but I'm
> >       hearing more and more reports. I love snakes but that's
something that
> >       could really upset the ecosystem down there. They can actually
prey on
> >       gators & crocs.
> >
> >       Then of course there's all the snowbirds... ;-> (D'n'R)
> >
> >       Ken
> >
> >
> >       On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:19:00 -0500, David Murphy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >       > Eddie,
> >       > This is a very interesting subject for debate.  I ran up to
read the
> >article
> >       > quickly after seeing the first post.  Much to be said about
invasive
> >       > species.  I miss the days that schools of brookies were in
almost every
> >       > stream in PA.  Today, the more dominate brown trout has had
an
> >undeniable
> >       > efect on their populations.  Or is it man's forestry and
other land use
> >       > practices?  -Murf
> >       >
> >       > >From: "Eddie D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >       > >Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> >       > >To: <[email protected]>
> >       > >Subject: RE: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish
> >       > >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:33:30 -0500
> >       > >
> >       > >Jack,
> >       > >The "brutal" truth of this article (although i have not
read it, but
> >the
> >       > >agruement has been argued before between friends) is that
these fish
> >ARE
> >       > >invasive.  They do take over the "native" fish's natural
habitat.  But
> >       > >being invasive does not necesarrily mean that it is a bad
thing.
> >Although
> >       > >I was much too young to actually remember this ever
occuring,
> >biologists
> >       > >said that the Hydrilla that was invading the potomac river
would kill
> >the
> >       > >river beyond repair.  Now it is one of the best bass
fisheries
> >availible.
> >       > >Personally, I would like to see the Snake Head make a home
in the
> >Potomac
> >       > >and surrounding areas.  They are a very aggressive eater,
and a very
> >strong
> >       > >fighter, almost like a Pike i've been told (By Ken Penrod,
fishing
> >guide).
> >       > >I dont see anything wrong with that.  And Folks, the
stories about them
> >are
> >       > >NOT true.  I was there with Ken after he brought a LIVE
snakehead to
> >the
> >       > >boat ramp, and so were a few reporters.  For those of you
who do not
> >know
> >       > >Ken, he is a very popular fishing guide in the Potomac
(PAMARVA area)
> >       > >region.  Ken laid the fish on the grass to demonstrate the
"walking
> >       > >abilities of this fish".  "It looks like its flopping like
a fish" said
> >       > >penrod.  The reporter said maybe a harder surface, so they
placed him
> >on
> >       > >the pavement.  Still no walking.  And after 20 minutes in
the shaded
> >grass,
> >       > >the fish was dead.  So much for its iron lung.
> >       > >
> >       > >Just my 2 cents.
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >-Eddie
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > >>From: Jack Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >       > >>Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> >       > >>To: <[email protected]>
> >       > >>Subject: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish
> >       > >>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:45:14 -0500
> >       > >>
> >       > >>The March issue of National Geographic Magazine has an
article on
> >invasive
> >       > >>species and the problems they are causing. Included is a
list of the
> >100
> >       > >>"worst". Only 8 fish made this list which includes, along
with the
> >walking
> >       > >>catfish, brown trout, rainbow trout and largemouth bass.
So everyone,
> >get
> >       > >>out there and help curtail this invasion. One question;
should we all
> >       > >>abandon "catch and Release"? Fat chance!
> >       > >>
> >       > >>Jack
> >       > >>"The worst day on the stream is infinitely better than the
best day at
> >the
> >       > >>office."
> >       > >>
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       >
> >       >
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