All;

Had to weigh in here.  One of the main reasons I like to tie is that my
flies are not anything like the traditional flies you can purchase by the
truckload from every fly shop in America.  This is not because I am
creative; I could just never get a traditional pattern to look anything like
it should.  Here in the east the better streams get a great deal of pressure
and the fish have seen every traditional pattern so many time that I bet
they can recognize the different tiers who made them.  By "creating"
something that looks unlike anything any respectable tier would take credit
for I feel I have an advantage because the fish have never seen it before.

Just my 2 cents worth 


Mile M

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of mark romero
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [VFB] simple request...Ray?

Monte, i'll agree with most of what you said, except for the blasphemous 
part. That's a matter of O's and A's. And everyone has both, lol. I have 
nothing at all against tradition......it's a cool concept. Convention 
however is a bit boring. And trust me, nobody "appreciates the traditional 
tyer" any more than i do. Just another reason i do not have any desire to be

in competition with them. mark.....

>From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [VFB] simple request...Ray?
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:30:33 -0500
>
>Remember that by trade Carrie Stevens was a millinary.  So when someone 
>gave
>her feathers and hooks for fly tying she just did what she already knew how
>to do, she glued the feathers together and then tied them on the hooks.  
>She
>was never taught how to tie flies.
>Deb
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Monte Smith
>Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:08 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [VFB] simple request...Ray?
>
> > Fly tyig is all about the use of one's imagination.............after
> > all, you got one.
>
>
>True, to a good extent.  But that doesn't mean one should eschew all
>tradition and conventions.  I know plenty of tyers who tie great
>looking, creative flies that can't tie an Adams to save their lives!   I
>think it's important to maintain the traditions of the pastime as well
>as push the boundaries a bit.
>
>If you want to tie a Grey Ghost on a 6/0 salmon iron, great!  Have a
>ball.  Just try to appreciate the tyer who uses a more "traditional"
>approach as well.
>
>I'm with Deb.  There's plenty of stuff to mess around with in the realm
>of fly tying.  Cross-pollinating classic salmon flies with traditional
>New England streamers seems blasphemous.  lmao   hehe   lol   dig?  etc.
>
>  ;-)
>
>Monte
>
>
>


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