That's a good one Mike. You take my wife for instance....her flies (up until recently because they are starting to look pretty darn good) are sadder than McKinley's funeral....... even the horses cried.
But they catch fish like crazy. Last year at the Sowbug, i killed 'em on the Northfork, and got all my fish on one of here wounded lookin' Woolly Buggers. Same fly worked all day (damn durable) until i finally had to switch to a second one because i lost it. Fish just love here flies...........go figure. mark p.s. i tell her it's because they're lookin' to get a kiss, lol.
From: "Mike Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:36:08 -0600

All;

Had to weigh in here. One of the main reasons I like to tie is that my
flies are not anything like the traditional flies you can purchase by the
truckload from every fly shop in America. This is not because I am
creative; I could just never get a traditional pattern to look anything like
it should. Here in the east the better streams get a great deal of pressure
and the fish have seen every traditional pattern so many time that I bet
they can recognize the different tiers who made them. By "creating"
something that looks unlike anything any respectable tier would take credit
for I feel I have an advantage because the fish have never seen it before.


Just my 2 cents worth


Mile M

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Monte, i'll agree with most of what you said, except for the blasphemous
part. That's a matter of O's and A's. And everyone has both, lol. I have
nothing at all against tradition......it's a cool concept. Convention
however is a bit boring. And trust me, nobody "appreciates the traditional
tyer" any more than i do. Just another reason i do not have any desire to be


in competition with them. mark.....

>From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:30:33 -0500
>
>Remember that by trade Carrie Stevens was a millinary. So when someone
>gave
>her feathers and hooks for fly tying she just did what she already knew how
>to do, she glued the feathers together and then tied them on the hooks.
>She
>was never taught how to tie flies.
>Deb
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Monte Smith
>Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:08 PM
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>
> > Fly tyig is all about the use of one's imagination.............after
> > all, you got one.
>
>
>True, to a good extent. But that doesn't mean one should eschew all
>tradition and conventions. I know plenty of tyers who tie great
>looking, creative flies that can't tie an Adams to save their lives! I
>think it's important to maintain the traditions of the pastime as well
>as push the boundaries a bit.
>
>If you want to tie a Grey Ghost on a 6/0 salmon iron, great! Have a
>ball. Just try to appreciate the tyer who uses a more "traditional"
>approach as well.
>
>I'm with Deb. There's plenty of stuff to mess around with in the realm
>of fly tying. Cross-pollinating classic salmon flies with traditional
>New England streamers seems blasphemous. lmao hehe lol dig? etc.
>
> ;-)
>
>Monte
>
>
>







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