Hi John,
  Thanks for your response ,here's another I got from the list;                                                                                                                         
the mustad number is 9174  here is a link, it is a live bait hook
http://store.tackletogo.com/mus91100box.html

the 102y is a great hook, and the odd numbers are correct.  I believe this hook is Hans' preferred hook for tying his cdc and elk flies.  Black finish right?

John

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