It is asking a lot, but for my part my main rod for bream, bass and
redfish is an 8 1/2 ft 7 wt.  It is a relatively inexpensive Pflueger
Summit rod, when I bought it it was $32 at Wal Mart probably 8 years
ago (they didn't have a clue as to what it really was).  Equivalent 
Pfluegers are now about $80.  Even the bream put up a fairly good
fight on it.  If I'm just going bream fishing, I'll sometimes use my 5
wt bamboo.  The problem here is that every where the gills are, there
are also largemouth up to 8mlbs and spotted and alligator gar even
bigger.  I can't always guarantee what species I'll hook.  for the big
saltwater stuff I'vegot a 10 wt and a 12 wt.  the 8 wt is rarely, if
ever used anymore.

Mark Delaney  

On 6/7/05, Mike Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most of my posts are not getting through but I'll try again
> 
> I think you are asking an awful lot of a rod to be right for 8 ounce
> bream and 40 pound carp at the same time.  I would suggest that your
> beginner friend stick to a lighter rod and the panfish and small flies
> for bass to start.  He will not get much fun out of catching small fish
> on a magnum rod and would probably end up dropping the sport.  Better to
> spend his money getting a rod just right for what he will catch the most
> of and then as he gets more hooked on the sport to upgrade to what he
> requires for bigger game.  Cabelas sells rod combos for less than $100
> that are far superior to anything most of us learned on.
> 
> Mike M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of jerry goldsmith
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:04 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [VFB] All purpose Rod
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Mark Delaney
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:32 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [VFB] All purpose Rod
> >
> > You are pretty much on the mark.  I might consider a 7 wt (or even and
> > 8 wt), depending on the size of carp being targeted.  I know i used to
> > go steeleheading and salmon fishing with my 8 wt when I lived in
> > Michigan
> >
> > Mark Delaney
> 
> Mark,
> 
> you beat me to it.  I used a 5 wt on the veggie carp (amur) in our
> backyard
> when the kids were growing up.  They would literally run the entire
> length
> of the small pond.  When I fished for the bigger carp in other lakes I
> would
> use an 8 or 9wt.
> 
> And while my experience with steel head is limited to the smaller
> steelhead
> in the Yuba and American Rivers in California,  if the steelhead up
> north
> are bigger, you will need a bigger stick.
> 
> A seven weight is right on target for largemouth, big for sunfish and
> may
> be a bit large for trout depending on where you fish.  Out west, in the
> big
> rivers, think a 6wt is pretty standard, buy on lots of occasions you
> will
> appreciate a 7wt.
> 
> But with a 5 or 6wt, throwing some of the flies you will want for
> largemouth
> becomes a real chore.  And as Mark pointed out a big carp or steelhead
> will
> overpower a 5 or 6 wt.
> 
> I would say at least a 7wt.
> 
> JG
> 
> 


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