Welcome aboard Chuck. I think the advice you got from Jeff is about as good as you'll find. Nothing beats a soft hackle and a weighted one is really good in a situation like yours. Putting that bead, wether it be brass, copper, silver, gold, glass, plastic, or tungston, behind the hackle really helps as well. The hackle is forced to pulsate in the water and the bead represents an air bubble. Tye them on a scud hook, in different sizes. Put a little tag down at the rear end if you like. Use rabbitt, fox, squirrel, mink, beaver, seal, muskrat, goat, or even a synthetic like SLF if you want, for the body. Just about anything works. You can rib it if you want to get fancy. And partridge, grouse, starling, hen back, quinea, chucker, jay, again, almost anything works for a wing/collar. Mix and match to your liking. It's endless. mark

From: Jeff Frye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Any More Bream Flyfishers here???
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT)

Hey, Chuck. Welcome aboard the VFB. I live in Kansas
and as you might imagine, we don't have any trout here
either. The bluegill are a big bfavorite of mine as
well. When the gills go deep, I go to small wooly
buggers in assorted colors and like a little flash on
them. Hare's Ears also seem to do well. A real killer
fly is a bead thorax soft hackle in chartreuse that I
got from Del Roberts. Basically, put a gold or silver
bead on the hook wrap a chartreuse floss body up to
the bead leaving enough room in front of it for a
couple turns of soft hackle and a thread head. The
bead helps gets the fly down and usually gets hit as
it's dropping. If we can get John Ridderbos to chime
in, he could add a lot to this topic. -Jayhawk Jeff

--- Chuck Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Folks: I live in N.E. but more like E Central as I'm
> 60 miles due East of Birmingham, AL, and the only
> trout here are a few in the mountain stream, but it
> is ALL Nat'l forrest and of course, all but
> impossible to get to without hiking fo rdays, and
> with my bad back and hip it's just not an option..
> So, I flyfish for bream and sunfish  (cause in Bama
> there have been four pound bluegill caught NO fish
> tale there LOL)...Anyway, went to my favorite
> watershed here yesterday afternoon to try out my
> early fathers day fish/deptfinder, and the surface
> water temp is about 84.5 degrees, and 85 degrees
> drives the bluegills etc back into deeper (cooler)
> water.. So, I didn't catch anything much cause I
> have been using bream killer "water bug" flies, and
> tearin em up on the bed.. But, now, any suggestions
> to pull em out of the deeper water??? I know I'll
> have to go to a sinking wet fly, but which types
> would be best??? Thanks in advance.. Chuck da Newbie
> Flyfisher


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