Cool Chuck. You can get a cheap kit from Cabela, Orvis, L.L.Bean or a host of others..........better to do that and see if your going to fall in love with tying before you go out and spend a lot of duckets. The cheap kit can always be passed down to a kid or anyone else new to it. If you do fall in love, you'll be spending a considerable amount in the next few years to upgrade and supply yourself. One thing, don't ever be fooled into thinking tying flies will save you money. Just the opposite is true. But you will find great pleasure and recouporative joy in tying your own flies. Not to mention a wonderful way to be creative, and adventuresome. There's really nothing like it........completely unlimited in the ways in which you can take it. Keep your ears and eyes peeled for fresh road kill too. Keep salt and borax in your truck. Good luck. mark.....

From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Any More Bream Flyfishers here???
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:49:12 -0500

Thanks Mark... Maybe I can hint to the wife and kids for a fly tying kit for
fathers day (although that ALREADY gave me a new depth/fish finder as an
early prezzie this past week LOL).. Cause I have access to a lot of
feathers/hair etc... around here.. All that you mentioned, then I have
bluebirds, cardinals, jay birds, robins etc that drop a lot of feather
around our bird feeders, and I have a goat, and have plenty of deer and
turkey hunting friends who can get me all the hair I want.. I wonder if the
hair off my short haired (stiff hair) Chihuahua would work???? LOL, Thanks
again, Chuck... who is off to practice his fly casting techniques right now
between thunderstorms


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From: "mark romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Any More Bream Flyfishers here???


> Welcome aboard Chuck. I think the advice you got from Jeff is about as
good
> as you'll find. Nothing beats a soft hackle and a weighted one is really
> good in a situation like yours. Putting that bead, wether it be brass,
> copper, silver, gold, glass, plastic, or tungston, behind the hackle
really
> helps as well. The hackle is forced to pulsate in the water and the bead
> represents an air bubble. Tye them on a scud hook, in different sizes. Put
a
> little tag down at the rear end if you like. Use rabbitt, fox, squirrel,
> mink, beaver, seal, muskrat, goat, or even a synthetic like SLF if you
want,
> for the body. Just about anything works. You can rib it if you want to get
> fancy. And partridge, grouse, starling, hen back, quinea, chucker, jay,
> again, almost anything works for a wing/collar. Mix and match to your
> liking. It's endless. mark
>
> >From: Jeff Frye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Any More Bream Flyfishers here???
> >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hey, Chuck. Welcome aboard the VFB. I live in Kansas
> >and as you might imagine, we don't have any trout here
> >either. The bluegill are a big bfavorite of mine as
> >well. When the gills go deep, I go to small wooly
> >buggers in assorted colors and like a little flash on
> >them. Hare's Ears also seem to do well. A real killer
> >fly is a bead thorax soft hackle in chartreuse that I
> >got from Del Roberts. Basically, put a gold or silver
> >bead on the hook wrap a chartreuse floss body up to
> >the bead leaving enough room in front of it for a
> >couple turns of soft hackle and a thread head. The
> >bead helps gets the fly down and usually gets hit as
> >it's dropping. If we can get John Ridderbos to chime
> >in, he could add a lot to this topic. -Jayhawk Jeff
> >
> >--- Chuck Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Folks: I live in N.E. but more like E Central as I'm
> > > 60 miles due East of Birmingham, AL, and the only
> > > trout here are a few in the mountain stream, but it
> > > is ALL Nat'l forrest and of course, all but
> > > impossible to get to without hiking fo rdays, and
> > > with my bad back and hip it's just not an option..
> > > So, I flyfish for bream and sunfish  (cause in Bama
> > > there have been four pound bluegill caught NO fish
> > > tale there LOL)...Anyway, went to my favorite
> > > watershed here yesterday afternoon to try out my
> > > early fathers day fish/deptfinder, and the surface
> > > water temp is about 84.5 degrees, and 85 degrees
> > > drives the bluegills etc back into deeper (cooler)
> > > water.. So, I didn't catch anything much cause I
> > > have been using bream killer "water bug" flies, and
> > > tearin em up on the bed.. But, now, any suggestions
> > > to pull em out of the deeper water??? I know I'll
> > > have to go to a sinking wet fly, but which types
> > > would be best??? Thanks in advance.. Chuck da Newbie
> > > Flyfisher
> >
> >
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