Re: [VFB] Feather ? Biots - Enjoyment in tying

[mark romero]

VERY cool Chuck. My favorite fish there is, is a Bluegil. Prolly cause 
that's what i grew up fishin' for as a kid so much. We had trout in the 
local creek for a couple months when they stocked it, but other than that, 
we had to go to the reservoirs and catch White Bass. But mostly it was 
Bluegill in the local lake, and ponds. We'd even catch ém usin'the eyeballs 
of the last one for the next one, lmao. So that outta tell ya all ya need to 
know, bout the ultimate Gil gly, rotf. Actually all i ever use' nowdays is 
the Usual. My "Go To" fly for both Trout and Gills. And all you need is one 
material..... he he he he he.......... mark

From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Feather ? Biots - Enjoyment in tying
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:38:01 -0500
Mark: Thanks for the tips.. Good ideas..and YES. I have MILLIONS just
stiffing my mattress..I wondered what all them lumpy spots in my matresss
were LOL...and ... I wndered what I could do with all that money.... now I
know, Buy fly tying stuff LOL...Seriously.. I have thought about this, and
have come to the conclusion.. I am gonna strive to come up with the worlds
BEST "Bluegill Fly"... Ther ear eno trout where I'm at.. I don't bass
fish... We don't have pike, tuna, salmon, steelheads, or things like 
that...
We don't have the Ocean of Gulf of Mxico that I can go to ovee a cpl times 
a
yr.. But, I have Monster Bluegill withing MINUTES of my front door... and
they are my passion as to the type of fish I fish for, so it makes sence
that for me, that (the ultimate Bluegill fliy(ies) would be thje route to 
go
right????  Cause even if I tied the salmon flies fo rexample. I have no way
to "try them out" for myself...Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: "mark romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Feather ? Biots - Enjoyment in tying


> Chuck, lemme pull your coat to one thing. It's gonna be a while til you
find
> your niche.......something you can really get into "Beyond" just tying 
per
> say. First of all you must develope a passion for tying in general. I 
have
> no doubts you'll do that. But at a certain point, you'll find an area in
the
> larger world of tying that you ESPECIALLY love. Then finally, you'll 
come
to
> realize that (if your like me at all, lol) you have thousands of dollars
of
> materials that you may never use, lmao. So be carefull not to go to 
crazy
> collecting materials.............although that's a REALLY hard one to
> manage. Cause if your like most tyers, you just CANNOT help yourself 
when
> you walk in a fly shop, go to a show, pick up a catalog, etc., etc.,
> etc.....well..........least you'll be prepared if and when the time 
comes
> you wanna open up a fly shop, lmao. Maybe that's what i'll do, lol. mark
>
> >From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
> >To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Feather ? Biots - Enjoyment in tying
> >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:10:03 -0600
> >
> >Chuck,
> >
> >As in everything, there are extremes as to viewpoints.  Some
> >tiers/flyfishers would catch trout all day on a piece of yarn tied to 
the
> >hook if that would work.  And then some will fish only if they can dry
fly
> >fish, and that only with a traditionally tied classic dry fly pattern.
> >Both
> >views are valid.  I know guys that fish with $70 Cabela's kit-rods, and 
I
> >know guys who go out with no less than $3 grand worth on them and in
their
> >hands, with hand-tied flies (theirs) and hand built rods (theirs).
> >
> >I enjoy studying the creatures I fish for, the materials I use to tie 
the
> >flies to catch them, and the foods that I imitate with these flies.  To
me,
> >it's part of the enjoyment of the sport.  I can tie 12 months a year, 
but
> >flyfishing in Wyoming is viable for about 6 months a year, unless 
you're
> >one
> >of those polar bear flyfishers.
> >
> >So studying flies and feathers and furs and all the misc. stuff 
available
> >is
> >just part of the whole experience.  Feathers are particularly 
fascinating
> >to
> >me.  Just think of the DNA files it took just to create the pattern of 
a
> >ring-neck pheasant.  Everything is so complex and diverse, yet together
> >looks so congruous and in place.  Where are the main banks that cover
color
> >coordiantion?  Each follicle does its own job, but are they all
> >individually
> >controlled, or is there a master gene?  It could take a lifetime of 
work
> >just to understand the splicing codes of hybrid species.  And if you
think
> >all ring-neck pheasants are identical, think again.  After examining
> >hundreds of tail clumps, getting the 'skirt feathers', I find that 
rarely
> >can I get two feathers from different birds that match enough to mate,
much
> >less match perfectly.
> >
> >So yes, I could use a traditional Adams to catch lots of fish.  But my
> >Adams
> >has Pardo Cd'L tail fibers, rope-dubbed mink underfur for the abdomen,
> >hand-picked genetic Winger wings, and Hebert Speckled Champagne Badger
> >hackles.  Will it out-fish the traditional?  Who knows?  Do I care?
Nope.
> >Do they work?  Yep.  Really good- I'm happy with them.  Ta-daaaa.
Mission
> >accomplished.
> >
> >There are many tiers on this list that tie just for the joy of tying 
and
> >extending their expertise.  I invite them to add their ideas to this
> >thread.
> >
> >DonO
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
> >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 12:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Feather ? Biots
> >
> >
> > > Don: Great info.. Thanks... I think it helps a LOT to know things 
like
> >this
> > > if I am going to be tying my own flies....  Chuck
> > >
> >
>
>