Tony, The sweet spot tip is a good one, I'll remember to include that any time I'm discussing the method.
Funny you should mention palmers. One of my columns that just appeared had a local searun pattern, the Blockhouse Whisker Bug, that's entirely hackles. I used the a-m method. Also, it's a great way to do Bivisibles. When using a wire or oval tinsel rib, using the rib to secure a palmered hackle at the tail and along the body makes the method useful, however, for wide ribs, such as flat tinsel, it loses its charm. cheers, Paul http://www.galesendpress.com Paul Marriner Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's End Press. Member: OWAA & OWC. Author of Stillwater Fly Fishing: Tools & Tactics, How to Choose & Use Fly-tying Thread, Modern Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi River Journal, Ausable River Journal, and Atlantic Salmon. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction > Paul, > Hans got me to doing that some years ago, I don't do it exactly the same > but close enough. Tying in the hackle before doing the body makes for a > nice neat tie off at the hook eye. This would be for collar hackles. > Hans and I still go round and round on palmered hackles. LOL. I will add > this, find the "sweet" part of the hackle before tying it in. I posted > about finding the "sweet" part of the hackle some days ago. > Tony > > Paul Marriner wrote: > > >Another technique that I picked up from Hans W is to tie in the hackle on > >top of the hook, dull side up, pointing forward over the eye. The most > >forward thread wrap is where you want the hackle to stop behind the eye. Tie > >the fly but finish with the thread at the point where the rearmost hackle > >turn will be. Wind the hackle rearward to the thread. Now work the thread > >forward through the hackle, simultaneously tying it down and strengthening. > >Now at the front you have a clean area to finish a small head, no stray > >barbs at all. > >cheers, > >Paul > > > >Paul Marriner > >Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's End Press. Member: OWAA & OWC. > >Author of Stillwater Fly Fishing: Tools & Tactics, How to Choose & Use > >Fly-tying Thread, Modern Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi River Journal, > >Ausable River Journal, and Atlantic Salmon. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Tony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:31 PM > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction > > > > > > > > > >>Here is a trick I use to keep the hackles out of the way. Wrap the > >>hackle to where you will be tying off. Just before the last wrap, strip > >>off the barbs and finish with a bare stem wrap. Another trick it to > >>slide the thread as you finish wrap on the top of the hook eye and under > >>the hook eye as you wrap. This will have the tread push any stray barbs > >>back away from the hook eye. > >>Tony > >> > >>Chuck wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Tony: Thanks..I didn't think about my tie off LOL...I willprobablyjust > >>> > >>> > >keepdoing it the way I do > > > > > >>>cause The thingthat is giving me problems is with the bigolhackles it was > >>> > >>> > >easy to pullthem backout > > > > > >>>of the way todo my whipfinish... Anyway,Hope this email is the right font > >>> > >>> > >etc,cause I'mat my daughters cause > > > > > >>>my neighbor was puttin in new fieldlines to his septic tank cut a main > >>> > >>> > >phone line trunk, and cut phone service to the whole neighborhood,and it may > >be a day or two before it is fixed,so Ya'll will get a little rest from my > >LOUD mouth LOL,No applause LOL, Chuck > > > > > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Aug 3, 2005 3:44 PM > >>>To: [email protected] > >>>Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction > >>> > >>>Chuck, > >>>Do what works for you. I wrap clockwise because I tie off that way too. > >>>I find if I wrap counter clockwise and tie off clockwise the thread > >>>pulls the material the opposite way loosening it at the tie in point. > >>>Tony > >>> > >>>Chuck Alexander wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Folks: I finally got me some small hackle, and am having trouble with > >>>>it a little... My question is this..I tie right handed,and Say, on a > >>>>woolly bugger, I would wrap the thread clockwise as the hook eye > >>>>points towards me in the vise.. Then, I WAS wrapping chenille and > >>>>hackle in that SAME direction.. But all night it wanted to come > >>>>unraveled.. So, I wound the thread clockwise, and then the chenille > >>>>and hackle counterclockwise, so, that when I went to tie it off, the > >>>>thread would cross over the hackle and/or chenille and seem to hold > >>>>better.. Is there anything Wrong with doing it this way???? My DVD's > >>>>and Books show them all doing it the same way I was doing it, in the > >>>>same clockwise direction.. Or is this one of those "Whatever works for > >>>>you is the right way"???? Thanks in advance, Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > >>Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ >
