Chck; Tippet material can also have a big effect here. I have had a lot of trouble with fluoro tippets especially in the 6X,7X and 8x range. I don't use it anymore because of the twisting problems. Mike M
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Alexander Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Non-Feather Wing Material (to Don O) Wes: Thanks.. I know what ya mean now, cause i have noticed that some of my flies, the tippet just curls up when it lands, and with others, it lays out perfectly straight.... I guess those did not spiral or twist.... Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Wada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Non-Feather Wing Material (to Don O) > Don: How does one know if a fly is spinning during the cast????? I'm so > blind I can barely SEE the fly during casts, much less know if it is > spinning.. Or is it (the spinning) a feel you get in the rod???? Thanks, > Chuck Hi Chuck, One of my favorite patterns is a foam terrestrial with plastic wings cut from the plastic off a Tiemco hook bag. I have used this pattern extensively over the last four years, and only once did I have a problem with a twisted leader. What this looks like is that the leader will furl onto itself. On smaller flies, the fly may not sit upright on the water correctly due to the torque of the twisted leader. That aside, I think whether or not wings will cause a fly to spin depends on a number of factors (feel free to add to this list): 1. How big the wings are compared to the size of the fly. 2. How rigid and how air resistant the wing material is 3. Whether or not the wing in the pattern is upright or tied more as a downwing style). 4. Whether wing lengths are equal in length (given a pair of wings). 5. How big the fly is...bigger flies will generally exhibit less of the leader twisting problem. 6. How much the hook in question can act as a keel for the fly traveling through the air and sitting in the water. 7. Tippet diameter... the thinner the tippet, the more apt any fly is to twist the leader. Just in my experience the problem is overrated. But if you are a small fly/ light tippet guy, then the problem might be, well, more of a problem. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon
