I think though that the magor man made effects on our stream populations
are not the ones we all want to readily blame, those big smoke spewing
factories and (I’ve been told they exist) armies of big business / oil
company hacks who pour 50 gallon cans of green soup in every trout
stream they find.  Acid rain and mine drainage do some damage for sure
but by far the biggest contributor is you and me.  We like to eat and
wear clean clothes on our pretty green lawns.  All of these seemingly
innocuous activities produce huge amounts of fertilizer / phosphate
runoff which enters all of our waters.  What this causes is algae blooms
no matter how high the water quality or how pristine the temperature
will completely deplete the dissolved oxygen in the water.  The insects
feel it first and there are "indicator" species such as stoneflies that
will quickly tell you that oxygen is an issue, kinda like the old canary
in the coal mine.  Agricultural runoff and farm animal waste are a major
concern as we practice ever more intense agriculture.  Recently a single
dairy in upstate New York had a manure settling pond rupture during a
flood and dump its contents into the Black River.  The ensuing fish kill
was disastrous on this fine trout stream.  This was not a corporate
megafarm either, just a good sized family dairy.  (I think they milk
about 1000 head).  Pig manure is being blamed for the disastrous fish
kills now occurring almost every summer in Pamlico sound.  

This may sound funny but I believe it is true, the big chemical and oil
companies are for the most part trying to "do the right thing" not out
of the goodness of their hearts but because it is either good business
or it has been regulated onto them.  They also are the only segment that
has the financial resources to attain it.  The small farmer and even
family gardener is a far worse polluter than we want to admit, they can
only be regulated to a small degree and even when regulated usually do
not have the financial means to correct their problems.

Mike M 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Flytying, genetics, Myth?...

Garry,
Okay, environment has an affect.  But how much can the system handle
when man is able to do more than a hurricane?  Agnes took out a lot at
my cabin's creek (Mapquest Waldheim, PA), including huge carp, spawning
suckers and changed the whole system there (not THAT far from where you
live).
Point?  Man has done over a short time what used to take a millenium by
nature.
Murf
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From: "Garry V. Wiles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Flytying, genetics, Myth?...
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:09:53 -0500
Muf,

You bring up two interesting points. The first - where are the bugs
going, followed by why aren't we using patterns to match the bugs that
are there? I've thought about your post and would like to remind the
list two things: 1)I used to be smart and 2)I'm an Idiot (I'm reminded
daily by the woman I live with).

I believe all things move in one cycle or another. Bugs that we imitate
aren't much different. The life cycle is the most well known. As
fisher-folk, we have books and charts and time tables and web sites all
mapping out hatch and spinner falls. The bonus features of some places
would tell you what are the best water temps and clarities and every
other nuance of water quality needed as well. We know or have come to
expect certain bugs at certain times of the year. What the books of 20
years ago don't account for are disasters of natural or man-made
proportions. Hurricanes like Katrina of this year, or Ivan of 2004
change the number of nymphs in the water. They also move or kill or at
least change the number of preditors at that time as well as food for
the smaller creatures too.

Hurricanes and Floods are an easy thing to recognize as far as forces
that move both fish and bug. Large amounts of water rushing downstream
spread downstream fish and their food, creating various imbalances
throughout the stream or river. Not every thing moves downstream and not
everything moves the same distance. This also allows for the cross
breading of sub-sub-sub species of a particular fly. Ever notice that
slight variations of the same pattern produce differently on different
stretches of the same watershed? Or as you mentioned Muf, the March
Brown w/Orange Herl for Year X where orange wasn't part of the equation
for year X-1? What caused the change in the bug? The fish are keying in
on part of the bug or something new to the bug that year, something
caused it.

Other things that may cause bug kills or movement can be droughts that
cause the water level to fall below sustainable levels for the biomass
of the stream level to sustain. Less food for the bugs means fewer bugs.
Fewer bugs lead to fewer fish, either through fish movement or death.
Eventually the balance returns and there's more food for the bugs, and
the cycle goes the other direction. Wild animals and 'tame' animals can
destroy bug habitat in the stream with out expressly meaning to as well.
The swans in your story did that very such thing by eating the water
crowfoot, thereby destroying bug habitat. Don't forget natural
preditation - both in the water and on land/air. If a large number of
fish end up in an area with a small hatch or bug population, they can
easily destroy their food sources. Birds and bats and other insect
feeders can just as equally destroy small populations while the mayfly
is in it's dun/spinner life cycle.

Of course NONE of the above addresses the numerous man-made
possibilities than can exist. In Western Pennsylvania, acid rain and
acid mine drainage are both damaging to water quality leading to poor
stream biomass (bugs AND fish). Threats by former mine owners to shut
down the pumping water out of various mines, leading to stream flooding
with excess acidity blowing down a stream and wiping it all out. That's
just ONE sample of man-made disasters, we've read about others that I'm
not going to discuss.

Part II to come.

-->Garry



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