It simply comes down to respect for nature and another living thing.
It doesn't remove 'taste' from the fish by giving it a quick whack on the
head before filleting. I was always taught that growing up....even for
mullet, garfish and whiting. It all depends on the person's morals. Life is
survival of the fittest etc etc but one doesn't have to be cruel to survive.

R

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Sent: Friday, 10 February 2006 7:28 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Live fish filleting

(First of all, I'm going to assume the literal translation of "filet &
release" as filleting a living fish and throwing the carcass back in while
it is still alive.  I've seen this done for 4 decades at least.)

I grew up in the deep south, and fished for as far back as I can remember
(my dad said I was 2 the first time I caught a 'brim' on a cane pole).  I
don't remember fresh-water fishing, but I remember fishing along the Lake
Pontchartrain seawall quite a bit, catching croakers and 'sheep-head'.  We
kept fish on stringers, as we didn't have ice chests and stuff like that.
When it came time to go, it was time to clean the fish.  We didn't filet
fish, as gutting and scaling was the way to do it- zero meat thrown back.
Fish were baked whole or fried whole- head, eyes, fins- everything.
"There's a lot of good meat around the head of that fish- can't throw that
away", my granddad used to say.  You see, for him, fish were survival food,
especially during the Great Depression.  He made a living throwing a cast
net and hand-lining.  Not much was thrown back.

TO get to the point, since the fish were still alive on the stringer, and it
was time to clean them- what to do.  My grand-dad, and my dad, would take
each fish and whap it on the head with a hatchet handle (which was always
carried along as their 'catfish sleep-inducer'- to keep from getting
finned). You see, even though they had never heard the word conservation,
they accepted their unspoken stewardship over fellow creatures seriously.
It was not 'humane' to gut or scale a living fish for consumption.  Even
though a common sight was a feeding frenzy, with sharks and jacks feeding on
baitfish, tearing them to shreds and having dozens of them wounded,
disemboweled, cut in half, etc. swimming around until something ate them, my
'teachers' still believed in humanely putting any animal down before
proceeding to clean it.

So until you witness a saltwater feeding frenzy, don't get too emotionally
upset about someone 'live-filleting' a fish.  I've seen that done, even with
guides and mahi-mahi offshore.  It's not right in my book, but if you throw
that live fish back, there's a good chance that some predator will
live-filet it for you anyway.  Who has not fished the salt extensively and
not had a predator strip, chop up, de-body, or mutilate a fish on the line?
If you bottom-fish off-shore, you might as well take everything home, as
nothing survives the swim back to the bottom.  Heck, for the first few fish,
sometimes, they don't even survive the reel-in to the surface.

So maybe salt-water fishermen are a little 'crustier' than freshies.  I've
caught mackerel and proceeded to dispatch them by chopping them up into
cut-bait, the first cut behind the head to dispatch them quickly.  But what
about live-bait fishing?  One jams a hook through the eyes or back of the
live fish and tosses it over.  Inhumane?  Why?  In a few minutes, if it was
still in its school, a bluefish would probably have chopped it up for you,
or disemboweled it and left it to die if nothing else ate it.  Whether you
live-bait fish or not-  this still goes on.  I've seen saltwater fishermen
gash a live bait to make it bleed to attract gamefish.  This goes on and
will go on.  One does become calloused to any suffering the fish feels
because of the environment that fish lives in anyway.

I'm not in defense of live filleting, as it's easy to dispatch the fish
first.  But when one has fished for decades and has witnessed the callous
natural slaughter of thousands of living things, it's actually not a big
step to live-filleting.
Whether one likes it or not, it will go on with some fishermen- especially
with those who use live and cut bait in salt water.

In freshwater fishing, one rarely witnesses a feeding frenzy.  One rarely
has a fish mutilated on the line.  It's a world apart from saltwater
fishing- especially off-shore fishing.  So freshwater fishermen tend to be
more sensitive than their counterparts of the deep salt.  Freshwater fish
generally swallow their prey whole and the prey succumbs to asphyxiation- a
'humane' demise.  The most inhumane thing one encounters is poking that hook
through a live bait.  So what happens now?  One catch-and-releaser catches a
nice trout on a fly, kisses it, carefully cradles it until it is revived and
swims away.  An hour later that trout eats a worm or minnow with a hook in
it.  It is then unceremoniously jerked out of the water and tossed into a
cooler to suffocate.  Another bass is caught for the 5th time by a
tournament fisherman, kept in the live well all day, held up by the jaw for
photos that evening, then released.  The next day he is grabbed by an osprey
and killed by talons through his spine.  Bears routinely strip live salmon
of their skin and let the living fish slip back into the river to die.  Are
we bears?  No.  Does this happen naturally?  Yes.  What do these fish feel?
No one knows.  They'll soon spawn and die anyway, some say.

Some people can't stand to put a hook through a worm.  Some can put a hook
through a worm, a fish, a live frog, a salamander, or even a live mouse.
People draw the line for themselves without a problem.  It's when they draw
the line for others when the problems start.

My feeling... People are smart.  Animals aren't.  Animals suffer at their
own hands, and at our hands (catch & release included).  We don't have to
make them suffer any more than they already do- but we actually do in the
name of sport.  Some would rather have a fish suffer in the name of food-
more noble??  We are stewards of the land and animals, not of each other.
If we drive a car, we pollute.  If we buy a license, we help restore
fisheries.

I know where the brain is in a fish.  My filet knife is just the right tool
for a humane dispatch if I'm going to gut & scale, be-head, or filet & eat
that fish.

"Life musta' have balance, Daniel-sonn" .

Comments?

DonO




I was a little curious about what a filet and release is also.  I thought it
was just dumping the waste until I saw Paul Marriners post about filleting
and releasing them live????
How's that possible?  I'm not sure I really want to know but you know what
they say about curious minds..
Regards,
Deb



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