Just use tying thread on those small flies and for yellow bodies and other that change into another color just use a strip white hackle quill and dye it with a water proof marker before applying to the hook....Sometimes the hook color comes through a very thin dub body A dyed strip peacock eye quill.is interesting also..By using the same size hackle, tail and body size try using a down eye ,#1510 Daiichi. or down eye Mustard ,5x short in #16 for # 20 to #22 flies and sometimes for # 24's and # 18 for the smaller ones. Again it depends on the size of hackle and body size etc you apply to the hook . They been doing this for midge flies in England for over seventy five years , I have an old Hardy catalog that shows this.,and Bill Tobin of Cortland been using # 16 ,5x shorts since the !930's.,called Tobin's Little People ...I found that in catch and release waters where there are very selective that I had to use a regular size hook only 10 % of the time. and instead of missing so many fish ,once they take and roll to take a fly using these hooks ,just tighten the line and they just hook themselves......Glenn Overton

----- Original Message ----- From: "Neville Gosling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Diptera


You don't need seal's fur per se - it does say or substitute.
Most black dubbing should be ok. Seal's fur is a bit spikey.


Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, Canada

Subject: Re: [VFB] Diptera

I have everything to tie these but the seals fur. Anything I could sub for
that??? Thanks, Chuck







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