Chuck,
Transformers, magnetos, etc.,  are a never-ending supply of wire for tying.
Just use a drill to spool it up on an empty thread spool.  Just don't use
your good bobbins for wire-tying.  Get some cheepie bobbins, as the wire
will wear the tip edge into a ruffle-edge, then even a groove.

Short hairs must be roped with the fingertips all along the length
simultaneously.  That's advanced rope-dubbing.  Seal, polar bear, some short
synthetic seal subs, etc. - are in rope-dubbing 102, not 101.

For gil patterns, I would rope well-segmented tails, a black picked-out
body, and rubber legs.  Different color combinations from there.

All of my chilly-pepper patterns for the swap were rope-dubbed.  This new
batch of samples I'm sending you ought to finish your rope-dub training.

DonO


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou


> Ahhhhhhh Haaaaaaaaaaaa.. Now that I went there and read all the article
and
> looked at all the pics enlarged, it makes perfect sense (except that I
still
> cannot picture how you'd use short hair like the hare's mask hairs)..I
just
> GOTTA try that weighted woolly bugger... I think I'll try a Chili pepper
> like that..Don, BTW, I still have the ice dubbing you sent me last year..
Do
> you have any recipes for it, rope dubbed to make some bluegill flies???
> And/or some bass flies??? I used some of the rope dubbed hooks you sent
"as
> is" and DID catch fish...One last thing.. Has anybody ever cut into one of
> the transformers that just about every TV, Radio, DVD player, hair
> dryer,kitchen appliances, Rechargeable drill and other tool chargers.. The
> black box that plugs into the 110 volt outlet, then changes the voltage to
> anywhere from say 4.5 to 18 volts DC.. If you  cut into one of these, is
the
> copper windings big enough to use in tying flies??? Thanks, Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou
>
>
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Lefty was demo-ing right before me two years ago in Denver, just after
his
> > heart attack and stroke.
> >
> > He demo'd that tie you're describing, but he didn't rope-dub around the
> > wire
> > like I do.  He just twisted the chennille and hackle to make a rope.
When
> > you rope on the wire as a core, it gives you a lot of alternatives for
> > tying.  See the VFB site for the all-in-one wooly-bugger tie in the
> > rope-dub
> > article.
> >
> > As far as short flies go, I can get 28 segments rope-dubbed on a #28 dry
> > fly
> > hook.
> >
> > Not many people 'get' the technique until they see it in person.  It's
> > just
> > too easy to jump-assume that it's like the other techniques.
> >
> > DonO
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou
> >
> >
> >> DonO: The other night I took apart some of the hooks you sent me that
you
> >> had demo'd the rope dub.. I peeled back the wire and the rope dub
"light"
> >> came on .. It finally makes since to Me.. Then I saw a video where
Lefty
> >> Kreh basically tied in a "rope dubbed" wooly bugger, to make it where
you
> >> can catch 100 fish on one fly.. He took a black and a yellow strand of
> >> chenille, and the hackle feather.. Tied them in at the back of the hook
> >> as
> >> normal, then twisted them into a rope, and tied them all in TOGETHER,
and
> >> lie he said, it wasn't as pretty as a real good spiraled in "Normal"
> >> wooly
> >> bugger, but your hackles (and the "roped" chenille)  would last ten
times
> > as
> >> long as normal..I'm gonna have to give it a try now that I see it.. I
am
> >> still having trouble picturing how you'd rope in short stuff like the
> > hares
> >> mask.. But the longer stuff I now "see the light" er, uh, "see the
rope"
> >> LOL.. Chuck
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou
> >>
> >>
> >> > Tony,
> >> >
> >> > I do the same thing, but I 'rope-dub' it. The looks come out same as
> >> > yours,
> >> > except that the marabou dubbing 'rope' has a wire core.  A thick wire
> >> > gives
> >> > it weight and a thin wire is less weight, but both are bullet-proof
for
> >> > teeth.  If I want it for dry flies, I just use my tying mono for the
> > core,
> >> > and I get durability and zero extra weight.
> >> >
> >> > I showed Pete Gramps how to do it at the NJ Symposium.
> >> >
> >> > DonO
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Anthony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: <[email protected]>
> >> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:47 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Stackign Marabou
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Chuck,
> >> >> I tie a one marabou plume fly. Preen all the fibers to
> >> >> the top. Tie in so that that end is a short stubby
> >> >> tail. Twist the plume counter clockwise  so that it
> >> >> forms a "rope'. Lay it back and over wrap with thread
> >> >> so that it covers the tie in wrap. Wrap the rope fwd
> >> >> on the shank for the body. The tighter you twist the
> >> >> rope the more segmented the body will be. Tie off
> >> >> behind the eye. Lift that end of the plume back and
> >> >> over wrap to form the head. Clip off about 1/4 to 3/8"
> >> >> from the head. This will lay back for the wing. Seems
> >> >> like olive and Orange are good colors.
> >> >> --- Chuck Alexander
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Folks: When spinning the deer hair, and watching
> >> >> > video of  it being stacked, it made me think.. Why
> >> >> > not "stack" marabou on Wooly buggers..Say if you are
> >> >> > tying a black and yellow "Yellow Jacket" pattern.
> >> >> > with yellow and black marabou... Why not tie in
> >> >> > yellow and black marabou.. Anybody do this??? Is it
> >> >> > effective??? If so, in what colors?? Thanks in
> >> >> > advance, Chuck
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
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