Here is a link to the Al Troth Video. http://youtube.com/watch?v=WR27csOJPVc
And a link to how I tie my EHC. I do use a rib so they last longer. I get most of my fish on this pattern. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9HiZpKE1J_0 On 9/18/07, Glenn Overton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Al Troth who first created the Elk Hair Caddis really use soft hackle > paltered over the body. I feel the back and then forward with the hackle > is > to much hackle and covers up to much of the body ,as a trout see the > natural > of the fly from below and really I use no hackle over the body at all as > long as the deer or elk hair is put on properly. Don't tie it on top as > you > do with a streamer ,it won't act or float right. > E-mail me direct and I will send you a drawing on the directions I did > many > years ago. Using a palmered hackle as All Troth did it , is starting the > hackle back from the eye,leaving room for the wing and wind to the rear > and > tied off at the rear with a gold wire and the fine wire is wrap over the > hackle and finish up front where the wing is applied. Don't winded the > hackle to close as it very important that the caddis body is seen clearly > . > I use the compression method to measure the amount of hair needed ,that is > if your using the correct type of hair. Blue Ribbon Flies in West > Yellowstone ,Montana has the perfect hair and it not listed but you can > choose light, medium or natural dark hair.In the compression method which > I > created in my teachings over thirty five years ago is when you tie down > the > hair ,the area you tie the thread around the winged hair is equal to the > diameter of 21/2 to 2 3/4 , larger then the diameter of the eye of the > hook. > The hair also needs to come down the sides slightly below the sides of the > body ,leaving the belly expose ,like a natural wind on a caddis . Hair > just > goes to the end of the hook and not more then that length ..This wind > length > catches more fish with a wing to the end of the hook ,rather then a longer > wing.beyond the hook . To trim it off use a curve scissors and the stub of > hair will have a triangle ski blade in front ,extending to the tip of the > eye of the hook Glue the triangle ski blade..The curve scissors will make > a > square trim ,where a straight blade scissor can not. > Glenn Overton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:53 AM > Subject: [VFB] caddis > > > > Tying question. I have been looking at several sites showing tutorials > > for tying an elk-hair caddis. Most of them show the hackle being tied > > in at the front of the dubbing (toward the eye of the hook), then > > palmered back to the top of the bend, then forward (through the hackle > > now in place) toward the eye, and the starting point of the hackle. Do > > you-all subscribe to this back-then-forward method, or do any of you tie > > the hackle in at the top of the bend of the hook and make only one pass > > (back to front) with the palmering? What is the rationale for your > > choice?? > > Do you include a wire rib to wrap over the hackle? > > Enquiring minds, etc. > > > > Larry Johnson > > Springville, Utah > > > > > > > -- http://flyangler.ca - Canadian Fly Fishing http://flyfishcalgary.com - Calgary Fly Fishing
