When I first joined the group I received emails every day. I haven't received in over a week so I was wondering if I am still receiving emails and if it is just slow!!
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor, Lance Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Spam: RE: [VFB] Small Fly Swap -- 1st flys in Hi Steve, See below from a post made just last week. Indeed, Swaps are fun.. be sure to jump on one when you can. Lance Taylor Edmonton, AB Canada -----Original Message----- From: Taylor, Lance Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:08 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [VFB] Fly swap guideline Here's my $0.02 on the subject! About how much I got paid for it. I love RULE #6. =) http://flyangler.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid= 32 (Full Text Here) Exceprt From - "What Are Fly Swaps?" Contributed by Lance Taylor Saturday, 02 September 2006 SWAP ETTIQUETTE I will not delve to deeply into swap etiquette in this article (perhaps in a future one) suffice to say that there is a protocol to be followed. Most of these are just common sense items that are covered more clearly in the aforementioned links, but here are my personal FIVE GOLDEN RULES that I always follow: RULE #1: One should ALWAYS tag their flies somehow to make their identification easier for the swapmaster and fellow swappers. A paper "toe-tag" containing the name of the pattern, tier name, and an email address as a minimum. Some will go so far as to include pattern information, history, and "bag" them in small individual plastic bags. The "tag 'em and bag 'em" philosophy helps present your flies in the best possible light too. RULE #2: One should never mail their flies indicating a retail value on the flies of more then $5.00 (should cover just the cost of basic materials). Lest the swapmeister get dinged for customs and duty on something you valued for $150. They may be that priceless in your mind, but that remains to be seen when the others get them. Simply mark them generically as "fishing flies", "craft items", or "fishing hooks" so as not to arouse the suspicions of the "postmaster" which only cause delays in the shipping and handling of your flies (and everyone else's). RULE #3: Provide a crush-proof container to contain your flies in. Nicely hackled Dry flies will come out looking like squashed nymphs otherwise. Anticipate that the container is coming back with an assortment of flies. You have no idea how large they may be, so make sure the container is of sufficient size. RULE #4: Always try to put in more then you expect to get out of the swap. Supply a few extra flies for the swapmeisters time, materials, or yes even money as a thank-you to cover any unforeseen expenses. RULE #5: Get them done in time! Don't procrastinate or you will hold up the entire group. Remember, people are waiting on your finished flies - so why be the last to get them done, when you could be the first! Good swapmeister's often provide something extra to the first tier to complete flies as an incentive. RULE #6: Okay I lied, above all RULES there really is only one GOLDEN RULE! DON'T BE LATE! - R.B. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Johnson Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly swap guideline Jim: Nicely done. I suspect that we have all participated in swaps that were in the "best swap" category, and also the "worst swap" category. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah >>> "jim phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/19/2007 5:55 PM >>> This is not my original writing but I borrowed/stole it from a Canadian/English Fly Forum. I don't remember which one (old age) but I am trying to give credit to them as this is a fantastic list to follow. deserttrout OBTW: Anyone interested in'winging it'? *********************************** Fly swap guideline for tyers and swapmasters: 1. A dozen tyers is about the perfect size. 2. A swap should be proposed by someone willing to act as the Swapmaster. 3. The Swapmaster should keep track of all tyers who commit to participating and when 12 are signed up, 'close' the swap to new participants. 4. The Swapmaster should then post a list of who's in, what they've committed to tie, and what the deadline is. 5. Swaps are supposed to be fun, so deadlines should be realistic -- at least a month away from the time the swap is closed in most cases. 6. Flies should be mailed in large, rigid envelopes. The perfect way to ship flies into the Swapmaster is to put them in a plastic, inexpensive flybox with the tyer's username and real name printed on it. Include a return envelope in the package, with your return address on it, and the same amount of postage as was required to ship your flies to the swapmaster. (shipping fly boxes is a great idea, mainly because it insures that no hooks will poke through the paper envelopes and impale some poor postal worker, be sure to write your name on the box though!) 7. Make sure the return envelope is big enough to accomodate large flies! It's a shame for the swapmaster to have cram other tyers' work into a small envelope. Some flies are quite long, have delicate tails, and need lots of room. 8. It's a nice gesture to include some information about the pattern you've tied, a receipe, etc. 9. Some tyers put each fly into its own plastic sleeve. 10. Include an extra fly for the swapmaster as a courtesy, not mandatory, but a nice touch. 11. Try to make the deadline. 12. Put your screen name on the outside of the envelope when you ship it to the swapmaster. 13. Make an effort to show off your best work. Don't rush. Tying a dozen of the same pattern can be tedious, so don't do it all at once unless you're really determined or an efficient tyer. Try to tie something unique. Swaps are a great way to receive patterns you might never consider. That's not to say that a Deceiver/Clouser/common pattern isn't appreciated. 14. Place a 'toe tag' on each fly with your name and the name of the fly.For the Swapmaster 1. Keep the swap informed by posting a thread weekly with the subject line 'SWAP [whatever title] Update.' Spell out who's in, what they are tying, and any news. 2. Post a reminder weekly before the deadline. 3. Post a list of what flies you've received as they arrive. 4. Keep the flies in their original envelopes in a safe place. I would recommend not opening any envelopes until they have all arrived. 5. When all the flies have arrived, find a big open space -- like a clear kitchen or dining room table and put down 12 pieces of 8.5x11 paper. 6. Write each tyers name and real name on the bottom of each piece of paper. 7. Open the envelopes and carefully put each tyers contribution on their sheet of paper. 8. Keep the return envelopes in a stack. 9. Distribute the flies, one set at a time, between the 12 sheets of paper. 10. When they are all distributed. Carefully collect the flies and place them in the receipient's fly box, sheet of foam, cardboard or whatever. Place that in the return envelope. DO NOT SEAL YET. 11. When all the return envelopes (11, the 12th being you, the swapmaster) are filled, check to see if there are any flies remaining to be sorted. If not, and if you think everything is good to go: seal the envelopes. 12. Take the bundle to the post office, mail it, and post a message saying the swap is in the mail. A photo of the set with a key to who tied what is a nice touch.Fishermen like to play with their equipment ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Feller Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VFB] Small Fly Swap -- 1st flys in Michael, Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like fun. Steve --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Michael Bliss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VFB] Small Fly Swap -- 1st flys in Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:24:36 -1000 Occasionally we have a swap where tyers share their flies with each other. It is a good way to learn new techniques, get ideas and force yourself to learn to tye just a bit better. You will see the swaps open up and all you have to do is sign up. Usually they are 10-20 flies so it is not hard to do. Glad to have you on the list. Mike On Jan 8, 2008 12:39 AM, Steve Feller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I am new to this list. Please explain the swap. Tx.
