Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for
charter-ietf-netvc-00-00: Block

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The IESG has discussed this issue on last week's informal call, and we
have asked the IAOC legal committee to comment.  We have some
response so far, and we're waiting for Jorge to weigh in.

> The WG will prefer algorithms or tools where there are verifiable
> reasons to believe they are available on an RF basis over algorithms
or
> tools where there is RF uncertainty or known active IPR claims with
> royalty liability potential. The codec specification will document why
> it believes that each part is likely to be RF, which will help
adoption
> of the codec. This can include references to old prior art and/or
patent
> research information.

We are pretty explicit, in general, that working groups do NOT
evaluate patents and other intellectual property, and there are good
reasons for that.  Some companies would have problems with their
employees participating in such discussions.  Discussions of that
nature can put people into positions where they become aware of
patents they otherwise would not, and that their employers would
prefer that they didn't.

I think that at the very least, we should loop the IAOC legal
committee and/or Jorge into this, and make sure they are/he is OK with
having anything about patent research information in a working group
charter.  I know that many companies do not allow their employees to
do patent searches and evaluations without explicit permission.

I worry that such a discussion will either make it impossible for some
people to participate, or cause some people's participation to
unintentionally violate their employers' policies.


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I certainly support this charter.  I have two concerns, one minor, one
not so minor.  The not-so-minor one is above, in the "discuss" box.

The minor one is here:

<<
5. A collection of test results, either from tests conducted by the
working group or made publicly available elsewhere, characterizing the
performance of the codec. This document shall be informational.
>>

I'm really happy that the deliverables are, in general, specified in
terms of what will be delivered, and not how it will be laid out in
how many documents of what sort.  Thanks!

Related to that:
I strongly urge that we strike the last sentence in item 5.  Actually,
I prefer that we replace it with an explicit statement that the
collection might live in the working group wiki (or github, or
whatever), and might not be published as an RFC at all.  But I'd be
happy with just striking the reference to publishing a document.


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