On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Barry Leiba <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hey, Ted.
>
>
> Actually, I believe -- I'm willing to be corrected -- that we do *not*
> talk about participants' evaluations of patent claims, and we shut
> those discussions down if they happen.


If an IPR claim is filed on an internet-draft, I think a working group
participant saying something like "I still plan to implement this, as I
see  $FOO and $BAR as demonstrating prior art." would be well within our
process.   Preventing them from saying that because some other participant
doesn't want to hear about $FOO or $BAR seems like it grants a patent
assertion way too much power.

Note that this does not in any way mean that other participants must come
to the same conclusion as the participant who mentions $FOO and $BAR.  As
you note, they must come to their own conclusions.  But I have certainly
heard multiple discussions of participants' evaluations of how specific
claims would or would not effect their choices, and I believe that these
are appropriate.


>   I believe that we consider
> those discussions out of scope for working groups, and that we expect
> and advise each participant to make her own decision in that regard.
>
>
​I think we consider the working group making an assertion about the patent
rights inappropriate, but that it may come to consensus about likely
implementation and deployment based on its participants evaluation of all
the criteria for that (including​ the participants' knowledge of relevant
prior technologies).  And I think that's very different from saying "we
don't discuss prior art".



> Barry
>

​regards,

Ted​
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