doubt that it is a codec/file format issue...
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, well do you know which one gets enclosed? the .mov or .mp4? Do
> you have control over that?
>
> .mov files can contain any number of codecs.
>
> 3ivx works in iTunes, all RB videos are 3ivx.
>
> On Jul 18, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Mark Cyr wrote:
>
> > I have been posting a video enclosure with every post, and using
> > both .mp4 * .mov all made with the 3vix codec. Do you really
think
> > that Apple is looking at the codec used? 3vix is supposed to be
> > compatible with Quicktime/Apple...
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Here is an example of of the iTunes feed that seems to be working
> >> fine for me evey time:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/dnmjf
> >>
> >> By using XML, you simply extract your database data and that
> >>
> > becomes
> >
> >> reformated automatically for each post.
> >>
> >> One note, yes, sometimes individual posts will not show up in
> >>
> > iTunes
> >
> >> if there is not a media file enclosed that iTunes can read.
> >>
> >> For a great test/examination into what will and will not work,
add
> >> apollopony feed to iTunes manually (its not in the directory) and
> >>
> > see
> >
> >> what posts are included and which posts iTunes ignores. Some mpgs
> >>
> > are
> >
> >> included, some are not. I assume it has to do with the codec:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/e25dq
> >>
> >> I use Moveable Type which comes with XML templates so its very
> >>
> > easy
> >
> >> to tweak. By adding the tags to the field, instead of the actual
> >> field data, it auto wraps the data for RSS.
> >>
> >> This brings up exactly the right question:
> >>
> >> What tools are avil. to create your own XML templates?
> >>
> >> On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Mark Cyr wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> But FireANT and other clients see the posts with no problem. My
> >>> understanding is that Feedburner does not modify the itunes tags
> >>>
> > in
> >
> >>> the individual posts, only on the feed itself. So how would
they
> >>> affect one post?
> >>>
> >>> And so how do you manage the itunes tags on individual posts?
Are
> >>> you posting with the same itunes tags on every post, or do you
> >>>
> > post
> >
> >>> specific (custom) tags for each post?
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> No, I am nearly certain your problem is Feedburner. We have
1000s
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> subscribers and I have spent about two weeks closely watching
and
> >>>> coming to understand how iTunes works.
> >>>>
> >>>> When iTunes launched, most of the videobloggers were out in the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> cold
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> for one reason: Feedburner.
> >>>>
> >>>> When you depend on a 3rd party, you are at their mercy for your
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> feed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I said this a long time ago but now we can see the direct
> >>>>
> > effects.
> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, Feedburner sucks for not having any control over updating
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> your
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> feed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps this has changed but the last time I looked a month or
so
> >>>> ago, updating your feed on schedule was out of your control.
> >>>>
> >>>> Problem: XML is supposed to make everything happen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> instantaneously.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Is feedburner slowing everything down?
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey sorry Feedburner guys, I think you are doing great things
and
> >>>> people obviously need you. But this just sucks and makes the
> >>>>
> > whole
> >
> >>>> thing not worth it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:07 AM, mark_thisorthat wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I disagree. I know of several machines, all subscribed to my
> >>>>>
> > feed
> >
> >>>>> using itunes, all of which are missing my video blog posting
> >>>>>
> > from
> >
> >>>>> last Friday. All these machines updated with a new post I
made
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> last
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> night and continued to not show the older missing post.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Last week I asked Feedburner why I wasn't getting stats for
more
> >>>>> clickthroughs from itunes (in proportion to hits), and they
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> responded:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "I think this might be a side effect of iTunes... they do not
> >>>>> actually follow any of the item links to display the
> >>>>>
> > enclosures...
> >
> >>>>> they parse the whole feed at once, pulling out all the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> enclosures...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> So now that you mention it, it doesn't surprise me that you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> wouldn't
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> see item click throughs from iTunes... does that make sense?
> >>>>> _________________
> >>>>> Chris
> >>>>> FeedBurner Team Member"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://forums.feedburner.com/viewtopic.php?t=934
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing seems clear, the itunes client does not access the
> >>>>>
> > feed
> >
> >>>>> each time every client wants to download an enclsure, they
> >>>>>
> > access
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> itunes music store. Then Apple decides what to do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> No, its not that bad. They cache their directory listing
only.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Thus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> when you browse the podcast directory you are looking at
static
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> data
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> that is only updated whenever apple decides to update.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, the moment you click on the subscribe button, apple
> >>>>>>
> > goes
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> out
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> at that time and grabs your xml data like it should. Thus
once
> >>>>>>
> > an
> >
> >>>>>> itunes user is subscribed, they are set up with dynamic
control
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> over
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> your feed, no longer dealing with the cache in the directory.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As a result, I get a full statistical report.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2005, at 11:24 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> apple jax!
> >>>>>>> this iTunes shit keeps getting worse.
> >>>>>>> their communication sucks, as do their self-fulfilling
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> strategies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> sull
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 7/17/05, mark_thisorthat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I have an email dialogue going seperately with the
feedburner
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> folks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> about this very subject. Feedburner is reporting that I
have
> >>>>>>>
> > a
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> large
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> percentage of subscribers using itunes, but that my page
views
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> clickthroughs are mostly from 'unknown' sources. I noted to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> them
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> last
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> week that maybe these numbers didn't quite match up and they
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> told
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> me
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> on Wednesday they were about to have a conference call with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> Apple
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> their reporting practices.
> >>>>>>> However I have heard nothing from them since Wednesday. Yes
> >>>>>>>
> > it
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> seems
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> to me that Apple is keeping control of the stats for
> >>>>>>>
> > themselves,
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> since
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> this would be a major revenue stream for them (and to be
kind,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> maybe
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> they haven't been able to get it together with the podcasts
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> yet).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wait, so you're saying iTunes caches your feed so that when
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> people
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> subscribe you don't get any stats on it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> WTF? Why do they need to do that?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -josh
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 7/17/05, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Note that iTunes has a static listing and also a dynamic
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> listing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The main directory is cache on their server. They have not
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> updating it daily. However, when you subscribe to a feed,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> once you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> are subscribed in itunes, your feed is used dynamically
and
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> everytime
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the subscriber updates, by pressing the update key or
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> automatically
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> updating, it will be according to your xml page which is
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> indexed at
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> that time and independent of Apple and their podcast
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> directory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Some posts that do not appear do not have readable media,
> >>>>>>>>>
> > for
> >
> >>>>>>>>> instance, if your post has a .wmv file, the entire post,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> including
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> metadata, will not appear in iTunes.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2005, at 7:13 PM, mark_thisorthat wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Has anyone had itunes refuse to display a post?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I posted to my blog last Monday, and the post did not
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> appear
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> itunes listing for my feed. Then when I posted again on
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wenesday,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> both posts appeared at the same time.
> >>>>>>>>>> I next posted on Friday and the post has yet to appear in
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> itunes
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> listings. About half hour ago (Sunday evening) I posted
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> again and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> this time the new post appeared in the itunes listing
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> within 20
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> minutes. But this time there is no sign of the older
post
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Friday.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else experienced this?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> My feed, "This or That!" Video from America's Favorite
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> Burlesque
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Game
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Show, is marked as explicit in itunes and tagged as
having
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> adult
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> content on all posts.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/ThisOrThat-video
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It is fine when viewed everywhere else.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The post that still hasn't appeared in itunes can be
found
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/ThisOrThat-Video?m=44
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone know how to contact Apple about this kind of
thing?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> http://interdigitate.com -is- my personal site
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