you are right; i do have to do all that

but calling it a day does not help as I want these services to work "as advertised"
we are recommending them (e.g., freevlog) and these services need to work
having to upload two or three times until it sticks is not a good way to get people started

yes it can be tough to keep these services running smoothly, but are we only supposed to get reliable service when it's "easy"?

don't get me wrong
i love ourmedia and archive and i use archive all the time (especially for collections)
but i think there is a lot of hype and issues that need to be addressed
and i just don't accept the "it's free" or "it's beta" reason for unpredictable service

Also, their statements and promises are inspiring at times, but indeed vague:

"We'll try it for six months and see what happens." - marc canter regarding OurMedia and Archive relationship, spring 2006
"Universal Access To All Human Knowledge." - brewster khale, repeatedly


Pete Prodoehl wrote:
Markus Sandy wrote:
  
i love archive, but it is so unreliable and frustrating - same for ourmedia

many say "you get what you pay for", "it's free", "it's made with love" 
and all kinds of other BS.

The fact is, we pay a lot. We work hard (to quote Jay) on our content 
and we work through these frustrating problems. Many also provide 
support, training and word of mouth marketing. Brewster Khale and 
others, while giving a lot, are also getting a lot.  Our content and 
support for one thing.  And lots of kudos and even some bucks for another.

In return we get some storage, vague promises about the future, 
unreliable service and lots of frustration.  This needs to be fixed.
    

I've been involved in keeping servers and sites up and running for a 
long time. It ain't easy. I should say, it ain't easy with limited 
funds. (Especially for a large/popular site!) I run my own server now, 
but I still put my videos on Ourmedia/IA because I want to, and because 
I can't afford the storage space or bandwidth. Those are *huge* issues, 
and I think they are being trivialized a bit by saying "some storage" 
and "vague promises" - Like others, I put up with the problems because I 
believe in the ideas behind Ourmedia, and the IA. If I was more 
concerned about reliability, I'd pay more for my server each month, host 
all my own stuff, be 100% in control (and at fault) and call it a day. 
Of course my hosting fees might double, or triple in no time.


  
I have not had more than the usual problems with archive.org lately, but
OurMedia has really been having trouble.

In the end, we used Blip.tv instead of ourmedia/archive.  Worked like a
charm.
        

If Blip.tv works for you, use it. Lately I've been doing this. Trying to 
upload to Ourmedia, if it fails, I then upload to Blip.tv and use that 
link. I then wait 24 hrs, report my video was not uploaded and try 
again. It always gets up the second time. I do this because I agree with 
the idea behind Ourmedia, and want my stuff there. There's always that 
line between idealist and realist, right?


Pete

  


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