Thanks Bill and Adam, it means the world to me that you find what I  
have to say interesting. I've come to terms with the fact I'm going  
to type copious amounts or words, and am just trying to improve it  
and structure it better for easier reading. Also, I keep the biggest  
articles on the blog where it's more effective and doesn't clog the  
channel. I'm still trying to find the time to start spending more  
time on the group again.

About Meet the vloggers chicago.

Doh! I forgot. I'm not going to be able to make it sadly, I'm back in  
Michigan and can't get over there for it. But I could make the  
recommendation they check it out.

This Saturday. Hmmm... It's going to be very personal media oriented  
I assume, but one or two of them might find it interesting. I should  
get them to go and get my arse over there to help present, that's  
what I should be doing.

Peace,

-Mike

Michael Meiser
http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff
http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - del.icio.us link blog
http://evilvlog.com - serious lunacy has a new domain

On Nov 16, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Bill Streeter wrote:

Yes I do too, and I wouldn't even say that you were completely off
topic. Your ideas about how the popularization of a technology
increases the apprecheation for professionals and demand for the
same was very insightful. I have been thinking the same thing for a
while I just haven't been able to express it as nicely as this.

I don't have any experience with really high bandwidth issues but I
might recommend seeking out a hosting service that deal with or
cater to high bandwidth content providers. I'm just getting close to
burning up about 100+ gigs a cycle myself at the moment--not really
in the same league as something like this.

You should invite some of those people to the Meet The Voggers event
at the Chicago Apple store on Saturday.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In [email protected], Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I love it when you do this....always enlightening.
>
> On 11/16/05, Michael Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Ok, I actually have the same question. I ran into some old
friends in
>> Chicago at a prominent investment research company and found
myself
>> giving my an impromptu presentation on just what all this new
media
>> stuff is about. I tried to tone down my enthusiasm, but I knew
I'd
>> just sold them on video blogging and podcasting. (It was that
damn
>> pretty itunes interface with all it's CNN and Wallstreet Journal
>> podcasts that did it.) While this is not a bad thing by any mean
I
>> have to get out a proposal out this week.
>>
>> I've illustrated 3 different plans for them and I pretty much
have
>> all the numbers. But what's really hard for me to grasp is the
>> bandwidth and numbers. We're talking 3-6 minute videos 5 days a
week,
>> or at the very least 2 videos a week just to start with. There
>> subscribership would be very high as they're quite prominent. So
I'm
>> trying to figure out numbers for say 5,000k, 10,000 and 100,000
>> subscribers and while I can do some math I'm asking about peoples
>> experience. How much bandwidth are you guys using, how many
>> subscribers do you have?
>>
>> I personally just used like 40gig of bandwidth in 48 hours with
one
>> video clip of David Cross from Arrested development. But I don't
>> normally host videos as I'm a revlogger ad a promoter of all your
>> fine works, not a vlogger myself. So, this is an incredibly
usussual
>> thing for me.
>>
>>
>> Off topic point one...
>>
>> Is there anyone doing paid vlog or audio podcast subscriptions?
>>
>> On a side note, there's the big monetization issue. Does anyone
here
>> know if anyone's tried doing paid subscription video casts. I'm
sure
>> sooner or later Apple will offer RSS podcasted DRM'd feeds of
music
>> and / or audio podcasts. After all it makes a hell of a lot of
sense
>> to subscribe to an entire season of Lost or Desperate Housewives
and
>> have it delivered right to your computer than to have to
constantly
>> wait for it to come out and then buy it a la carte. However, I'm
not
>> waiting around. And I believe DRM is like putting a ten dollar
bill
>> in a half ton safe. Complete overkill and a stupid arse pain in
the
>> arse for everyone. So, what I'm asking is what mechanisms for
paid
>> subscription are people using? Are there any? or is everyone just
>> doing advertising? Advertising will not fly for this product. Not
>> the client and not the customers who'll be day traders, brokers
and
>> people who'll be getting the morning report on their way to the
>> trading room floor. They're going to be very willing to pay for a
>> good product and won't put up with much advertising at all.
They're
>> the sort of people who believe in money in hand and paying for
what
>> they want and don't fuck around. It's the perfect demographic
really.
>> So... it'll probably a paid subscription morning report... witht
he
>> same content being offered free after 11pm. Timeliness is
everything.
>>
>>
>> Of topic point two... Long live the videographer
>>
>> About the generally increasing need for good videographers.
>>
>> It's way to early to say if my little project will fly, but if it
>> does go the way I hope my client will be needing a part-time or
>> fulltime videographer and audio editor to manage all the day-to-
day
>> operations.
>>
>> I definitely not selling myself for that job, I don't have the
>> skills, I just love to help build stuff, not run it. But that's
>> getting a head of everything.
>>
>>
>> What I'm really saying is these sort of opportunities for
>> videographers are exploding right now. With the ametuerization of
>> video based media the ones that benefit most are going are the
>> professional videographers... Sounds strange right? Wrong. People
>> ALWAYS make this mistake.
>>
>> The more widespread a technology gets the more people appreciate
>> professional quality. Most of all knowledge worker fields or at
least
>> most of all creative fields are based upon what I call an
>> "appreciation economy".
>>
>> It's something I learned very early on in design. The more
designers,
>> the more appreciation for design. The more good designers the
more
>> appreciation for good design. The only thing I can't abide is
truly
>> bad design done by people who really ought to know better.
>>
>> Why the hell do you think everyone in the creative fields flocks
to
>> big competitive markets like NY. It's because widespread
adoption and
>> exposure breeds further appreciation. Some say competition breeds
>> innovation. Yes, true, but it also breeds appreciation and more
>> appreciation breeds growth in an industry.
>>
>> You see this from the microeconomics to the macroeconomics. Blogs
>> have helped news media and most of the traditional print news
>> companies have adapted and are now making more money than ever,
>> though admittedly a few are failing to adapt.
>>
>> Digital photography and the widespread distribution of cheap
camera's
>> has not just made the photography more competitive. Now
infinitely
>> more people are making infinitely more money as professional
>> photographers.
>>
>> Ebay ametuerized commerce... now more people than ever are making
>> more money and the majority of those in the middle of the tail,
like
>> professional antiquers are making more money than ever. Ask an
>> antique dealer who sells on ebay.
>>
>> So too will you make more money as professional videographers.
The
>> trick is staying on the forefront as far up in the middle of that
>> curve is possible... and I don't think anyone who is going to be
>> reading this is going to have any trouble doing that because by
>> definition you're up on the latest trends in your field if your
>> participating in this group and vlogging.
>>
>> Anyway, that's why I'm doing everything I can for my part in
helping
>> democratized media. It helps to not only redistribute everything
from
>> power to money to the great debate, but it also helps grow the
debate
>> and the economy. Everyone wins, even those retarded saps, the
>> incumbent media like record labels and big media companies who
are
>> bitching and whining.. ironically they stand to benifit too...
just
>> as news media companies have benifited tremendously from
blogging.
>> The NYTimes is doing better than ever thank you very much.
That's a
>> far cry from obselete wouldn't you say?
>>
>> Well, I've said to much again and gotten way off subject.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> -Mike of mmeiser.com/blog <http://mmeiser.com/blog>
>>
>








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