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Paul, thanks for the response. Frankly, I
think we should use more personal names when responding here. These treads
wander around and if you don't read them as threads (and people respond in
different order) you're not sure exactly what is being said in answer
specifically to what.
It is very amusing that the word "podcast" creates
such strange image associations in our minds. I think of the movie
"Moonstone" in which "pods" were big oval alien eggs in a swimming pool which
had the ability to re-invigorate people from the old age home who swam in the
pool.
Ham video is a pretty neat term and probably
accurately describes most newbies and many veteran sloppy vloggers. I
don't mind the association with pigs since pigs are the most intelligent of farm
animals I believe. However, "ham" carries with it associations of being
either "amateur" (totally negative) or "amateur and funny" (negative with
redeeming features). So, I can't say I'd like to see the term adopted to
replace "vlogger". However, it would fun to see it adopted for describing
some of the pathetic, self-indulgent boring vlogs we find ourselves surrounded
by far too often.
I'm not a linguist. However, it is
fascinating that this word "pod" has the ability to conjure up such bizarre
image associations. I know that "pods" of certain living things
exist.
I just looked at a few pages of the 186,000 (mainly
sponsored results) for "pods" on Google. First, pods seem mainly to be
containers for storing or moving stuff. That "pod" business is huge and is
what most of the paid listings are about.
However, one "pod" was described as "a short
segment of video usually on a few minutes long" which validates those who argue
for it.
Then again there are poppy "pods" you can
buy. Wonder if any of those are opium poppy "pods" that could enhance our
imagination? :) And then there are trees that produce thousands of "fruit
pods"--whatever they are.
But, to insert a "ham tradition" into vlogging,
let's keep our eye out for those vlogs that deserve special "ham awards"
:)
Given that there is so much "bad" video out there,
the "ham awards" could actually become prestigious. Imagine how terrible
your vlog would have to be to be selected as the "worst of all".
Maybe, we could give "trophies" shaped like pork
chops, pigs snouts, pigs tails or pig ears. The "pig ear" awards would
appropriate for the worst podcasts. Why haven't they thought of
that?
By the way, where are you located? I'm in
Hoboken, just opposite NYC and attend the NYC vlogger meetings. They are a
lot of fun.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 3:54
AM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] for the new
people on this group
Randolfe,
you are so right podcasts is a funny word, I see this as renaming thing,
how about HAMvideo, it worked for years with radio. What are you
feelings, apart from ham being a type of pig meat, so much for getting away
from this obese man image you have. Call me a little surreal but
"podcast" conjures up images of small ova shaped tv sets, running very fast
towards a big ant which is on fire or a CD with a green crotchet on.
Speak to you again
Paul
On 23 Nov 2005, at 20:57, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
I agree with Michael.
"Podcast" just sounds ugly. The word brings to mind images like a
terribly obese man or a swarm of oysters--if oysters could
"swarm".
Actually, "video radio" has a
nice ring to it. Never heard that term before.
I also agree that "podcast" ties
everything to the iPod thing. I'm not into iPods or boomboxes so it
doesn't resonate with me.
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
----- Original Message
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Sent:
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: Re:
[videoblogging] for the new people on this group
yo,
podcast is utterly the worst word that could
have ever come out of audioblogging and now videoblogging. i
absolutely despise it. why? because any term that references a
specific product from a specific company that is in no way exclsuive to
what it is.... is wrong and confusing.
also, you say:
To
simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple
way to extend
what people already know.
wrong.. most people know podcasts as being internet
radio... audio! so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense
to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone?
Apple (becoming
more and more synonymous with the evil biblic apple) jumped on the term
after it was hyped by the likes of Adam Curry....when it finally allowed
rss subscriptions in iTunes.... Fine! makes sense for them...
since it's their product being referenced anyway.
But what about those who don
tuse apple products? Its annoying and not ambiguous, when it should
be.
Hell, iTunes does video. Change the fricking name of your
app then! its not just about tunes, not just about iPods... if
anyone should be changing terms, its Apple, not vloggers who actually use
video and blogs... oh and "vlog" is just short for videoblog and not
looked at as some replacement term for videoblog... web log = blog.
same deal.. so what.
dont forget, also T Whid,
there is establishment in the videoblogging community.... we had
vloggercon.... and several projects and events use 'vlog' in their
names. Dont tell us that we should change all that just because an
apple video iPod came out.... shit, i have had a portable video player for
over a year.... no change in terminology and vocabulary required upon
purchase.
sull
On 11/23/05, T.Whid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi
Josh,
It's more than simple 'buzz factor.' Most people don't know
what or
how to connect to media via xml feeds. 'Podcast' is making
headway as
the generic term to describe this via Apple's (and
others') marketing
and
promotion. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple
way
to extend what people already know.
Vlog isn't good as it is
meaningless to anyone that doesn't know the
'v' stands for
video.
Videoblog is better and more precise if you are talking
about a
website in blog format that also has video and feeds
associated with
it.
Video podcast is more precise when talking
specifically about the feed
and any web site associated
with it is simply that, associated with
it, but not crucial to
it.
The dangerous part is if one uses the term 'podcast' people
might
become confused and think that it only works with an ipod or is
meant
to be used in
association with an ipod. I've seen a few launches of
video feeds
recently where the only instructions they give on how to
use it is to
use iTunes. This is a problem (I'm sure you'll agree).
On
11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Don't you mean "video podcast"?
>
> I'm
joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group
> change their weblog
title or description to include the phrase "video
> podcast" since
the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a
> little
extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching
> for the
phrase?
>
> I'm personally still on the side of "videoblog"
or the shortened
> "vlog" for a number of reasons... many of them
already discussed
> here... I'm just curious to know if there's
another reason people are
> opting for "video
podcast" other than the recent buzz factor?
>
>
>
Josh
>
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