This discussion is probably annoying, off course and I'm getting philosophical abstract again (sorry, it's what I like to do -- treading now into moral philosophy.) But my point is that declaring something wrong in absolute terms and people who disagree as idiots doesn't leave room for discussion and discovery.
I want to say I don't mean to be antagonistic to you, Chris. I really appreciate much of the work you do and look forward to it. But I disagree with some of the declarations. -- Enric --- In [email protected], "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, that may not be exactly accurate. What it looks like to me (and > I'm open to be proven wrong on this or anything else I state) is that > you're saying people should just accept a value system you think is > true. To say rating are bullshit without rational argument and > considering that they may be valid is a way of imposing a perspective > on other's views and deny the validity of other knowledge. None of us > have absolute knowledge. And to predetermine what is true..call > others who disagree as freaks appears as a denial of others knowledge > and thinking. > > -- Enric > > Imposing some sort of bullshit ratings system on yourself is > >>> admitting that the freaks who advocate such censorship are correct. > > --- In [email protected], Christopher Weagel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Enric > > > > I'm telling people what to think? > > > > What the hell does that even mean? > > > > Or in reference to? > > > > Here's the Zappa clip: > > http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2658805?htv=12 > > > > Chris Weagel > > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Enric wrote: > > > > > Sorry, weagel but your telling people what to think > > > > > > -- Enric > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Christopher Weagel > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Oh JESUS CHRIST! > > >> > > >> I know that. > > >> > > >> That wasn't the point. > > >> > > >> See Frank Zappa's appearance on Crossfire from the 80s for more info. > > >> > > >> Chris Weagel > > >> > > >> > > >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Joan Khoo wrote: > > >> > > >>> Do not deny them but do not underestimate them. > > >>> Images and pixels and words can be dangerous, for "the pen is > > >>> mightier than the sword". > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 1/11/06, Christopher Weagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Yes I have. > > >>> > > >>> I wasn't clear enough. My apologies. > > >>> > > >>> That law should be struck down and openly defied whenever possible. > > >>> > > >>> Imposing some sort of bullshit ratings system on yourself is > > >>> admitting that the freaks who advocate such censorship are correct. > > >>> > > >>> Why? Because you're buying into the bullshit idea that images and > > >>> pixels and words are somehow dangerous in of themselves. > > >>> > > >>> It's ultimately a denial of thought. > > >>> > > >>> Why be so eager to readily please and submit to these monsters? > > >>> > > >>> Chris Weagel > > >>> www.human-dog.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Ms. Kitka wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>> Pick up a camera and go make something, stop wasting time on > > >>> children > > >>>>> who have assholes for parents. > > >>>> > > >>>> Oh, come on... haven't you ever heard of the Child Protection and > > >>>> Obscenity Enforcement Act? > > >>>> > > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18_USC_Section_2257 > > >>>> > > >>>> Kitka > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > >>> > > >>> Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. > > >>> > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > >>> Service. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
