On 1/13/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Okay all... this is great feedback, but seriously let's cut the guy a break.
He's listening and interacting here. That's the first step.
Legaleze like Terms Of Service agreements are hard to write. Nobody
knows what to do here, and paying lawyers to do this gets expensive...
and the lawyers can often come up with some draconian stuff anyway.
Usually people just copy TOS from other sites just to get it up and
get going. They often don't think about it and the users don't often
read it.
Good sleuthing and great feedback. Now let's give this site/service a
chance to respond and improve.
-Josh
On 1/13/06, Gena <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> You think it, nurse it, produce it and, if you so choose to, upload to this
> services you lose all of your rights to your creation?
>
> "YouAre.TV a worldwide, non-exclusive, fully paid-up, royalty-free,
> irrevocable, perpetual, sublicenseable and transferable license to
> use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display,
> perform and otherwise exploit the User Submissions in connection with
> the YouAre.TV Website and YouAre.TV's (and its successor's) business,
> including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or
> all of the YouAre.TV Website (and derivative works thereof) in any
> media formats and through any media channels."
>
> But anyone else can come to the site, snag your work, create
> mash-ups/alterations/what-not and there is no penalty (to them) or
> compensation (to you) as the creator?
>
> "You also hereby grant each user of the YouAre.TV Website a
> non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the
> Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works
> of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the
> functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service..."
>
> Where is the anal lube cuz this is nothing but another company setting up
> folks to get reamed. This is how the blues recording artists got ripped
> off, this is how modern day musicians are getting ripped off and it makes me
> angry.
>
> Maybe as part of our videoblogging education process we need to start
> talking about the assignment of rights and full understanding of what you, I
> and collectively we are stepping into.
>
> It doesn't matter if the lawyer "made them do it" or there is similar
> wording on other sites. It is wrong, wrong, wrong to take another's work,
> use it to generate viewers and income and then not cut the creator in for a
> slice.
>
> And to stop the tangents and comparisons to music before it starts I am
> specifically talking about video and videoblogging web hosting companies.
>
> Forget the lube, these folks would use Crisco.
>
> Gena
> http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
> ************
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone tried this one yet?
> > <http://youare.tv/?
> >
> > --
> > cheers
> > r
> >
> > Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively
> >
> > My Vlog: http://r.24x7.com
> > A Good Deal: http://foo.24x7.com
> >
>
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