dig.  i think maybe their are some cc license loopholes that remixers can take advantage of if using DivX.  I'm glad you are bringing up these issues though... because I want the community to become more aware of DivX technology and of course, its feasibility in terms of licensing issues. 

back to the tech.... yeah, it works great on windows and i'll test on mac this weekend.
i also like how you can popup the video off the page... but it relies on the page so if you nav away the player closes.  still, its a cool feature. 
the download management from plugin is likewise extremely convenient.
it's all quite intuitive and clean.  very impressed and excited to start using it and even try out some of the codec features like menus and soundtracks etc. 

the codec rocks!

sull

On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was thinking of the remix situation from the remixers perspective,
they cant publish the final mix in DivX format under the Indy licenses
current terms (unless somehow it considers them to be the copyright
holder).

But yeah the reason Im harping on about this stuff now is because DivX
has rapidly mostly solved the other big issues that made it unsuitable
for videoblogging, so this license stuff is worth shouting about now.

The browser plugin is nice, I like the way you can set it to
automatically save the videos it shows, and can go fullscreen. I
suspect Mac performance of the decoder is still a big sluggish at
higher resolutions but I havent tested much yet.

Steve of Elbows

--- In [email protected], Michael Sullivan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> fyi, Steve is referring to 'Indy' License which can be found here:
> http://www.divx.com/company/partner/indies/
>
> Your concerns are legit.  Let's see what Jim has to say about it....
>
> However, worse case for a vlogger using DivX today and who want to
provide
> more licensing flexibility so that others can share and remix
etc.... you
> simply offer the video in another format such as one of the mp4.  In
fact,
> if you are serious enough to be using DivX, then you probably are making
> other formats available for use on video iPods etcetera.
>
> I think even without any ammendments to the DivX Indy License, DivX
is going
> to be a killer platform in 2006.  It's just better than anything
else and
> now with the browser plugins for both mac and win.... its beautiful!
>
> With a few adjustments to the licensing... it could be almost
perfect ;-)
>
> sull
>
> On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Have you checked out all the licensing stuff on DivXs site? Thats the
> > biggest part of the puzzle not yet completed yet as far as DivX goes.
> > Too many strings attached at the moment, video distributors appear to
> > be treated differently to creators, and only being granted a license
> > to share divx stuff for 1 year is not well suited to videoblogging.
> >
> > Any progress on this stuff Jim? Should we be assuming that
> > videobloggers should be doing the DivX Indy thing for now, or that you
> > have something more flexible in the works?
> >
> > I congratulate DivX on the strong progress in recent months towards
> > fixing all the technical issues, such as Mac compatibility, browser
> > plugin (great work!) and progressive download.
> >
> > Once the browser plugin is out of beta, things should really start to
> > take off. But if this happens without changes in your lciensing stuff,
> > 2 bad things will happen:
> >
> > 1) Those that read the license will be putoff and stick to something
> > with a license more suited to videobloggers such as mpeg4 or h264
> >
> > 2) Vast numbers of people wont read the licensing stuff at all, people
> > will start publishing divx stuff willy nilly, and then later if you
> > try to reign in this activity, DivX networks will seem like the
bad guy.
> >
> > I am begging you to take a look at the mpeg4 and h24 licenses and see
> > if you can incorporate some similar clauses. Exempting video which is
> > under a certain length, under a certain number of viewers, stuff like
> > that, will be important if videobloggers who want to do things by the
> > book (and not get potentially stung in the ass later) are to be able
> > to use DivX with confidence.
> >
> > Also the current DivX Indy license is incompatible with the mash up &
> > remix sides of videoblogging culture. Indy creators are onyl allowed
> > to distribute DivX videos of material that they are the copyright
> > holder of.
> >
> > Other clauses such as 'no adult content' only add to the restrivtive
> > feel of all this.
> >
> > Ive never actually looked as to whether Macromedia, Microsoft or Apple
> > impose interesting licensing terms on their media formats, here I am
> > just comparing DivX to what I know of the mpeg4 and h264 licenses.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Steve of Elbows
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Michael Sullivan
> > < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > yep, DivX is now a complete, high quality solution for vloggers to
> > consider
> > > using.
> > > definately worthy of your time to evaluate and experiment.
> > > i'll be using it along with flv and quicktime on upcoming
projects this
> > > year.
> > >
> > > i am also adding DivX support to vlogdir this weekend.
> > >
> > > sull
> > >
> > > On 1/20/06, JV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Also, for DivX, check out the new browser plugin with mac
support now.
> > > >
> > > > http://labs.divx.com/archives/000072.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > n 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been messing with it for the past few
weeks/month...it's really
> > > > nice.
> > > > > I'll try to find some time and post some test pieces this
weekend.
> > > > > The audio is a TON better than wmv.
> > > > > Don't know why though.
> > > > >
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