I use it on occasion, didn't notice that feature though. On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:46 PM, wtrainbow wrote:
There's a Firefox extension called "Web Developer" that will give the media info on a page - among many other things. It's an incredible tool if you do any Web design or development. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? id=60&application=firefox Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In [email protected], Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought webjay was for making playlists of media hotlinks that > you already > know/have? > > I was talking about scouring the page for all the media files, each > time I > load a page in a browser, no matter where I am, a list of links > pops up to > all the media files on the page. > > A browser plugin. > > If Webjay does it, I'm sold. Just didn't think it did. > > On 2/15/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> doesn't webjay do this? >> >> -Josh >> >> >> On 2/15/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> This is slightly unrelated, but: >>> >>> Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts: >>> http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js >>> http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js >>> >>> And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request): >>> http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.js >>> >>> I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit. >>> >>> Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and >>> presents a list of links to them? >>> >>> Possible? >>> >>> I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it. >>> >>> >>> On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: >>>>> I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds >>>>> WMV. >>>>> No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>> >>>> http://nbcolympics.com >>>> >>>> This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter >>>> CRAP. I >>>> >>>> don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap >>>> you'd find on any major news site. >>>> >>>> Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I >>>> feel >>>> >>>> like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching >>>> because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the >>>> heading >>>> "NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome" when clearly it is anything but. I >>>> mean >>>> >>>> to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've >>>> been forewarned. >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any >>>> individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity >>>> that >>>> is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate >>>> such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please >>>> don't take this personally. >>>> >>>> This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's "video interface" are full of >>>> needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly >>>> inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. >>>> People who don't get accessibility always say... "I can watch a >>>> video >>>> >>>> on it"... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 >>>> minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is >>>> needlessly for shit. >>>> >>>> I always respond to such people... "yeah you should check out >>>> that on >>>> >>>> video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really >>>> awesome.. >>>> >>>> you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... >>>> don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me >>>> know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how >>>> much >>>> >>>> said website rocks." >>>> >>>> One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and >>>> podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is >>>> changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed >>>> and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... >>>> that there is a better way. >>>> >>>> Over time people will come to understand how shitty such >>>> websites as >>>> this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere.... an >>>> elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive >>>> video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on >>>> the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at >>>> large instead of just an elite few. >>>> >>>> So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's >>>> crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore >>>> not >>>> send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit >>>> interface. >>>> >>>> When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore >>>> it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack >>>> it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the >>>> content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that >>>> people >>>> >>>> will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;) >>>> >>>> Case in point. >>>> >>>> Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's >>>> data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and >>>> comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog, >>>> with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy it and talk >>>> about it and reference it? >>>> >>>> I'm not sure this can be done with this NBC website... while >>>> someone >>>> said it was in Quicktime I don't see any QT videos... just all >>>> streaming windows media crap. There's to much material I think for >>>> one person to do it alone... but I think it'd be tremendously >>>> popular.... and in a media-hacker kind of way really give them a >>>> big >>>> positive slap in the face... like the bot that hacks your system >>>> only >>>> >>>> to apply security patches... sort of like "heh! idiots! clue in! >>>> here's a tremendous amount of traffic and attention... please >>>> take it >>>> >>>> and learn something from it." >>>> >>>> Of course they could and probably would threaten legal action, >>>> because how dare someone hot link to their videos or talk about >>>> them... Indeed the olympic committee has a tremendous history of >>>> suing anyone who mentions them... trademark and copyright law gone >>>> completely foul of it's intended purpose in the marketplace... >>>> beyond >>>> >>>> simply protecting such entities from malicious harm... to the point >>>> of suppressing free speech. >>>> >>>> But there's nothing the olympic committee can sue about as long as >>>> you say "unofficial" clearly in the title... because enclosing a >>>> video is no less legal than linking directly to a video... and >>>> quoting short descriptive captions about the videos is perfectly >>>> legal too. These things are the very foundation of the blogging >>>> world, basic re-blogging in fact. I repeat, the foundations of >>>> blogging. Anyone trying to suppress such basic freedoms would >>>> stir a >>>> hornets nest of controversy. >>>> >>>> See Streisand effect: >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_Effect >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyway, this is my idea of media hacking... >>>> >>>> ...bringing media rich culture back out onto the open web >>>> kicking and >>>> >>>> screaming... where it should be in the first place... for the >>>> benefit >>>> >>>> of all. >>>> >>>> But, I just don't have the time to go fuscking around with >>>> messed up >>>> organizations like NBC or the olympic comity for their benefit >>>> and no >>>> >>>> profit of my own... I'm to busy to keep up with the olympics let >>>> alone compile all their videos into a tried and true video blog >>>> format... TRUE this would save thousands of people COUNTLESS time, >>>> create bountiful and endless publicity and enjoyment... get the NBC >>>> olympic website endless exposure... but I just don't have the >>>> time to >>>> >>>> spend bitch slapping clueless web sites... If any of you do, let me >>>> know, I have all the skilz and offer my contributions, I just >>>> cannot >>>> afford to run the show. BTW, pardon the language, but I warned >>>> you :) >>>> >>>> Anyway, this reminds me of two things... 1) the sundance film >>>> festivals pathetic attempt at promoting their website by putting >>>> short films online and 2) the guys who during the very recent >>>> superbowl put every single superbowl ad online in mp4 and m4v >>>> format >>>> in a subscribe-able RSS format.... and that without anyone's >>>> permission at all. >>>> >>>> First, To address sundance... Have any of you seen any really cool >>>> film shorts floating around online from the sundance film festival? >>>> No? Well have you seen their site? No again? While perhaps that's >>>> because while every year they try to put out tremendous amounts >>>> of PR >>>> >>>> B.S. about 'sundance online' the clueless idiots BURY all the >>>> content >>>> >>>> in a completely inaccessible monstrous flash website... which makes >>>> it impossible to find or bookmark or watch or share any videos >>>> at all. >>>> >>>> Year after year no buzz and no talk happens about their short >>>> films... except by clueless wonders that just regurgitate their PR >>>> hype no one sees them... no one talks about them. No one being of >>>> course a relative thing... But you compare this to the now standard >>>> movie trailer releases which over the years have become much more >>>> accessible (most commonly in downloadable quicktime formats) and >>>> you >>>> get the idea that sundance is missing out on 99.99% of potential >>>> word >>>> >>>> of mouth marketing. They are clueless as hell much to the detriment >>>> of not only themselves... but all those independent >>>> filmographers and >>>> >>>> would be masses of fans that just never materialize. >>>> >>>> Second, the superbowl commercials... >>>> >>>> http://www.devlib.org/blog/2006/01/30/2006-super-bowl-commercials/ >>>> >>>> Because of the guys at devlob.com I have like 40 or so superbowl >>>> commercials on my ipod and could watch them without all that >>>> distracting football in between. :) LOL. >>>> >>>> All I had to do was pop an RSS feed into iTunes. Total time >>>> spent by >>>> >>>> me 30 seconds to pop the feed into iTunes and 30-35 minutes to >>>> watch >>>> all the commercials.. that's it. Amazing cultural insights and >>>> endless, enjoyment both about how good some are and how bad most >>>> are... all that a side this was a tremendous benefit to EVERYONE >>>> involved, so called "consumers" and advertisers a like, and yet I'm >>>> surprised these guys at devlib.org didn't get sued by either the >>>> advertisers, the NFL or other some such. >>>> >>>> I just want to point out the irony here... It's a stupid >>>> advertising >>>> industry... where businesses will pay millions to have their >>>> message >>>> heard in 30-60second spots... while simultaneously suing people who >>>> would talk about, share it or discuss it for free. >>>> >>>> This is the huge disconnect between the traditional advertising >>>> world >>>> >>>> and what's known as viral marketing. Viral marketers while not >>>> always >>>> >>>> well behaved get that buying eyeballs and airtime is now not the >>>> only >>>> >>>> way to get out your message... there's a new way... that way is >>>> ACCESSIBILITY... to craft a great message and put it out on the >>>> open >>>> web in a simple and accessible format and help your would be >>>> audience >>>> >>>> to find it and share it. >>>> >>>> This is in fact the slow revolution in the movie industry... the >>>> slow >>>> >>>> shift from solely TV advertising to increasingly putting more and >>>> more movie trailers on line... longer, much longer... higher >>>> resolution... even multiple trailers and other promotional pieces, >>>> out-takes, bloopers... almost all of which are now downloadable and >>>> able to be "hot-linked" to from any web page. This is the future of >>>> advertising and media... this slow progression of accessibility. >>>> >>>> >>>> Pushing the legal envelope... bending it not breaking it... >>>> >>>> Anyway, I have no doubt that the olympic committee would try to use >>>> legal threats to stop anyone who put their videos into a vlog-able >>>> format... (if in fact their are any videos worth doing this with) >>>> after all they've sued many for even mentioning their name in the >>>> past... we're talking well beyond all sane trademark law... but you >>>> know what... fuck em... there's nothing illegal about what I'm >>>> talking about... >>>> >>>> Unlike the guys who posted the superbowl commercials I'm not >>>> talking >>>> about redistributing content... just relinking all the content >>>> together in a vlog-able format. Simple reorganization for >>>> accessibility.. No redistribution involved. >>>> >>>> No court is going to rule that you can't "hot link" to a video no >>>> matter what sort of ridiculous terms of service the NBC olympic >>>> website has. Even if NBC is to mount a legal assault I think >>>> posting >>>> >>>> a cease and desist from such as NBC might in fact evoke the >>>> Streisand >>>> >>>> Effect (url cited above). >>>> >>>> The point is... video blogging, podcasting and blogging are like >>>> the >>>> ebb of the ocean tide... the slow sands of time... we're not >>>> breaking >>>> >>>> laws like p2p darknets... we're functioning legally and applying >>>> constant pressure... bending and pushing and challenging the legal >>>> system already in place.... increasing pressure... changing >>>> expectations on a very grass roots and yet global scale. >>>> >>>> We're slowly changing the expectation that media is for >>>> "professionals" and "spectators"... breaking down the so called >>>> "consumer culture" and turning the world into a much more human and >>>> participatory place. A "participatory culture" if you'd like to >>>> call >>>> it that. >>>> >>>> You might say... we're now out in cyberspace beyond the surf... >>>> we're >>>> >>>> now beyond the crashing waves.. the .com hype... we're now into the >>>> tides, the tides of change... these changes are deep, deep >>>> water, and >>>> >>>> increasingly they're just going to keep coming, endlessly ebbing >>>> and >>>> progressing... they will not crash like the cheap surf of the .com >>>> boom... but these changes also won't be always as obvious as >>>> previous >>>> >>>> changes. Perhaps only in retrospect will we be able to see their >>>> tremendous impact on shaping the landscape in which we live. >>>> >>>> Sometimes these changes are going to be so slow as to be >>>> imperceptible by all but the trained eye... and while sometimes >>>> they'll get hyped up in all "web 2.0" fashion... most times the >>>> truly >>>> >>>> profound changes will simply get misunderstood or missed all >>>> together, such as is my constant trying B.S. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> All hail deviant media hacker behavior. >>>> >>>> One of these days I'm going find the right deviant project like >>>> this >>>> and put my money where my mouth is... and push the issue to the >>>> edge... the headlines would hopefully reflect the irony... "huge >>>> success... threatened by legal action". One thing I notice is >>>> corporations love to sue the hand that feeds them... ahem.. >>>> RIAA. :P >>>> >>>> BTW, as an example I colluded with Jon Udell in typical blog >>>> manner, >>>> which is to say, despite his knowing anything about it... to crack >>>> open one of the "iTunes U" podcasts (aka. iTunes University >>>> podcasts) >>>> >>>> from Stanford and make it available on the open web instead of just >>>> the iTunes directory. >>>> >>>> Accessible podcast: http://odeo.com/channel/59954/view >>>> >>>> Now anyone can listen to it... almost.. except that it's still >>>> in m4a >>>> >>>> format instead of mp3... fucking Apple. But at least it now has >>>> permalinks, and you can comment, and click on and download on the >>>> media links... and reference it and blog about it. Hell, you can >>>> download it and transcode it to mp3 if you like. I'd recommend it. >>>> >>>> And this is the how and why... >>>> http://mmeiser.com/blog/2006/01/stanford-and-apples-itunes- >>>> taking.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Liberating media...... >>>> >>>> If I had endless time I'd love to do nothing but go around the >>>> internet and "liberate" media from sucky misguided, needlessly >>>> inaccessible web interfaces. I just tend to have no tolerance for >>>> such backward thinking. Perhaps we should declare the independence >>>> of the blogosphere / vlogosphere / podcast-o-sphere and annex it >>>> from >>>> >>>> the internet. Simply cut loose of all such bullshit. Have >>>> ourselves a >>>> >>>> little boston tea party of media and throw out all this sucky DRM, >>>> TPM and streaming media crap back into the depths of the cyberspace >>>> where it belongs. Perhaps every vlog, every podcast, and every >>>> blog >>>> created are just that... a rejection of the tax on innovation, >>>> progress, and above all humanity by the powers that be in media and >>>> in politics. >>>> >>>> We hold these truths to be self evident... that all media as it is >>>> representative of the voices of all people is created equal... that >>>> all media is endowed by the people with certain unalienable rights, >>>> that among these are the right to be quoted, discussed, referenced, >>>> to be known, studied and accessible by all and for the benefit >>>> of all >>>> >>>> people as is in accordance with it's central place as the language >>>> and the voices that shape our culture and the great debate. >>>> >>>> Media is now and forever will be from this point forward if not >>>> already the very language of our culture and as such all are >>>> entitled >>>> >>>> to have access to it, not only as a means of literacy, but also >>>> as a >>>> means of expression. As the printing press was to mass literacy of >>>> the written and spoken language... so to will the internet be to >>>> mass >>>> >>>> literacy of the language of media. >>>> >>>> We are all only so equal as our voices are equal and in so far >>>> as we >>>> use them. >>>> >>>> This is clearly visible in open source, blogging, podcasting, >>>> and now >>>> >>>> video blogging. It's only through our active PARTICIPATION in all >>>> aspects of the great debate that we maintain equality. The >>>> moment we >>>> let ourselves be put on the couch is the moment we loose that >>>> control. The extent to which we participate... to the extent we >>>> create code, or podcast, vlog or otherwise speak our mind and do is >>>> to the extent that we maintain and preserve our power and the >>>> equality of our society and the world at large. >>>> >>>> That... or of course you could go read Joe Trippi's book. I >>>> think he >>>> did a pretty good job of summing up the spirit of it... of course >>>> it's more than just politics, but just understanding what it >>>> means to >>>> >>>> politics is a start. >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> >>>> -Mike >>>> >>>> Michael Meiser >>>> http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff >>>> http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - del.icio.us link blog >>>> http://evilvlog.com - Serious lunacy has a new domain. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: >>>> >>>> I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds >>>> WMV. >>>> No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On 2/13/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Uhh...I dont see any vlogs. I see videos of the events but no >>>>> vlogs. >>>>> >>>>> Could you give me a link to a vlog post there. >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> http://www.taoofdavid.com >>>>> >>>>> --- In [email protected], Kunga <kunga@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You guys. NBC really is doing video blogging all over that >>>> website!!! >>>>>> It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even >>>>>> save as >>>>>> quicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/ >>>>>> minute >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://nbcolympics.com> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Taylor Barcroft >>>>>> New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, >>>>>> Futurecaster >>>>>> Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley >>>>>> URL http://FutureMedia.org >>>>>> RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia >>>>>> iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 >>>>>> barcroft (gizmo) >>>>>> kungax (Skype) >>>>>> kungag5 (iChat-AIM) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Kunga wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You turn on your television and tune into one of the NBC >>>>>>> broadcast or >>>>>>> satellite television channels. It's very lifelike if your set is >>>> HD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But if you must use the internet it's here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://nbcolympics.com> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>> Individual<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Individual&w1=Individual&w2=Fireant&w3=Use&c=3&s=38&.sig=OHeQJKby 66g g3t35np-qiw> >>>> Fireant<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Fireant&w1=Individual&w2=Fireant&w3=Use&c=3&s=38&.sig=hK8TfZa7Clh TIxD JdP6Cbw> >>>> Use<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Use&w1=Individual&w2=Fireant&w3=Use&c=3&s=38&.sig=fljF53rXtnOMjmp IyS YbqA> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> YAHOO! 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