Hallelujah, a message On Topic.  thanks Susan.

blogrolls are a great example.  This year. I predict some nice enhancements to this piece of the discovery puzzle. 

i will share some thoughts on this when i have more time.  time to clock out!

sull

On 2/23/06, Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ugh.  Bubbling hurts my tummy.

I'm such an un-avid-fan of popularity contests... so here's the best I
can offer, from an I-don't-have-the-time working mother.

I have a "vlogroll," which is actually powered by blogrolling.com .
Many people have a vlogroll--a list of links on the sidebar of their
page--say, their ten favorite vlogs.

If I like the vlog I'm reading, maybe I'll venture to check out one of
the vlogs on that person's vlogroll.  They would only put vlogs up
there they liked, right?

And then from that vlog, I could click on a link from their
vlogroll... and so on...

That's about as good a reference as I can suggest--friend to friend.
There's not much else that will work for me personally--or that I will
take the time to learn.

Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Most have agreed, we need to have systems in place to bubble up video.
> The idea is to help find so-called 'good stuff'.  Granted, that
depends on
> who you'r e asking.... but we need to speak in generalities too.
It's not so
> much good as it is contagious.
>
> We talk about how viral video hosting services are mostly filled
with video
> that is more entertaining to teens goofing around and not so in tune
with
> quality content creation.  The ratio is heavily tilted.
>
> Some will use the youtubesque services as a stepping stone.... if at
some
> point they want to take things more seriously.... then they will
also want
> more control and more flexibility.  They will stop using youtubes
and start
> looking at the other options commonly discussed here.  Once people
have an
> idea and want to start a project.... an Internet Video Channel....
they will
> abandon their sole use on youtubes.  I truly do not feel any concern
about
> this.
>
> I do't worry about these big projects damaging the ultimate vision
of the
> open media revolution.... Vlogging et all.  It will co-exist.  Some good
> comes out of it even if its difficult to see.  Like I said, they can
be a
> sort of launch pad for some people.  Its our job to continue to
evolve the
> tools and services more applicable to vlogging.... and they will come
> looking for them.  And we will welcome them and show them how to take
> advantage of the technologies of our time.
>
> But still, the issue of bubbling up video.  We have various popularity
> metering techniques but they rely on people and assume that people will
> actively participate in giving their input by way of a click here and a
> click there and comment here etc...
> Such systems can work well in some environments... like product
purchases on
> Amazon or eBay.  But will the masses do the same for Internet video
to the
> point where it actually helps?  Even if so..... How often will these
random
> people who are ranking random videos actually synchronize with what you
> think is good?
>
> Do we subscribe instead to trusted sources? Do we need more of a
system that
> utilizes a broader view of the network.... subscribe to people who can
> choose to 'spread' anything that they think is worthy of spreading?
If they
> blog.... and create content do they click 'spread this' if they
truly think
> they ought to? And that alerts anyone who has chosen to subscribe to
this
> 'person'.. not this blog in particular, but this person.  Maybe.
They could
> be posting a new video, a podcast, a picture or linking/quoting an
> article.... whatever the format and whatever the content.... they
may choose
> to give the content that extra 'push' by using this hypothetical
'spread'
> feature.  By default, their blog will ping other sites and offer
core RSS
> feeds etc... but this would be different.... this would be tapping
into the
> intentionality of the trusted source.  And you could be doing the same
> thing.  And those you trust may trust you as well.  And turning off
these
> sources should be 2 clicks away.  New concept.... unlikely.  but
maybe its a
> good path to work on.
>
> What else could we do?  Rely on technical algorithms? 5 star rankings? i
> dont think so.  diggs and bombs and karma? is it too easy to digg
something?
> who are these people that are into ranking pieces of content?  do they
> matter?  does this only work best for some nicehes and not others?
> Does it provide enough of a natural cohesion of the conversphere?
Are Human
> Filters better?
>
> Will any of this matter in 6 months or 2 years?  Maybe we will all be
> focusing on our favorite web sites that we have chosen to trust and that
> will be enough.  They may not exist yet, but sites that monitor the
pulse...
> the vlogosphere pulse, and all the rest of it.  They will emerge,
you know.
> so many new projects will sprout.
> Some will fade and some will linger on.  But maybe we need not worry
about
> bubbling up at all and just let the natural evolution of humans and
content
> and the Internet take us to a more filtered future.
>
> I pose these thoughts, without necessarily owning any one of them.  Just
> thinking .... been interested in dredging up other peoples thoughts here
> lately.  So many people are on this group, so few are active.
Regardless of
> that I would enjoy reading your thoughts on this.  How do you see it
playing
> out?
>
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> http://vlogdir.com
>








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