Verdi, 
Your point about licensing is well taken, however, blip.tv is a 
perfect example of a "good target" for a portal. If you have 5 "good 
targets" You still have to upload your video 5 times.
Maybe because of license restrictions and policies some video 
services will be excluded... The whole issue is simply that I do not 
want to have to upload my video more than once to be listed where 
the general viewing public will find it... Although, I do use google 
video, I am not yet concerned with anyone stealing my content and 
monetizing from my stuff. Not that I wont be soon.

[> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are 
helping to
> set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film 
world -
> namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary 
thing
> about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute 
your own
> work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on 
TV or Film
> you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't 
have to put
> up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.]

I am not buying into anything as of yet, one very distinct 
difference between what you pointed out and the 
truth, is that by adding your video to portals, you are not 
giving up your right to distribute your video yourself, your just 
extending your reach. The future for me is that one day UnzappedTV 
may indeed be something viewed on a cell phone as a channel or on a 
Media Center PC. I would like a service to upload and place my 
content in these locations without much effort. Some services 
convert this content and distibute it for you... The actual choices 
on who to use and which portal will have to be left up to your 
discretion, the resposibilty you have as a content provider to not 
infringe upon someone elses copyright is still yours...

I may have different motivations than you, as a matter of I am sure 
I do, and that is cool, that is what makes this so great! Thank you 
so much for your thoughts...

As far as your suggestions go... I do all but 1,2,3 but I am working 
on it... ;)

Jason



--- In [email protected], "Michael Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like 
YouTube
> because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of 
people looking
> for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2 
main
> reasons why I'll never be interested in that.
> 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for 
example
> all require you to license your video to them in such a way that 
they can
> commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for 
hosting when
> you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and 
Blip.tv without
> giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use anyone's creative 
commons
> licensed material and then upload it there you may be violating 
the terms of
> their licence (this is the case for any non-commercial and/or 
share alike
> license).
> 
> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are 
helping to
> set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film 
world -
> namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary 
thing
> about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute 
your own
> work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on 
TV or Film
> you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't 
have to put
> up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.
> 
> Here are my "tips" for building an audience:
> 1. Make great content.
> 2. Make great content.
> 3. Make great content.
> 4. Put your great content in a blog and add descriptions and links 
relevant
> to your great content.
> 5. Make sure you have an RSS 2.0 feed with enclosures so people can
> subscribe to your great content.
> 6. Make great content regularly (you don't have to do it everyday 
but don't
> dissapear for months at a time).
> 7. Interact with your audience via the comments on your videoblog.
> 8. Watch and comment on stuff you like (they might like your stuff 
too).
> 
> That's it for now. That should get you started.
> 
> -Verdi
> 
> On 4/3/06, lishisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings... Vlogweek very cool... Our New studio did not get
> > finished over the weekend, and I am bummed, Such is life...
> >
> > Warning - I am not a good writer, when it comes to me putting
> > something on paper, alot of time my thoughts get mangled, I am 
much
> > better in person... I think way faster than I type, so I will 
try to
> > convey and idea... discussing it here first before acting, and
> > hoping that I can get some constructive, open minded, feedback 
from
> > valued members here.
> >
> > I have an Idea...
> >
> > Trying to be a productive member and all, I would like to build 
or
> > be part of a new website/program dedicated to video submission. I
> > have *some* capital, resources and input, however I cannot do it
> > alone.
> >
> > It is understood by me that there are already MANY services that 
one
> > vlogger can upload a video to and get seen... however, people 
like
> > me, who vlog daily could spend a great deal of time, just 
uploading
> > to the many services out there...
> >
> > A service needs to be developed that you could upload your daily
> > video to once, and the service would "broadcast" your video the
> > other video services for which do not have RSS feeds, but force 
you
> > to upload ... What really gets me about the current group of
> > services for video distribution is that in order to gain the most
> > exposure you need to set up no less than five different user
> > accounts, and upload your video up to at least that many 
services,
> > my videos are around 40 mb, can you imagine how long it would 
take
> > me to upload to just 5 of them? Plus, compile, shoot, edit, 
create
> > webpages, post in a blog, ping the feeds that arent in 
feedburner,
> > and post to this board? It is just crazy...
> >
> > Here are some possible solutions...
> >
> > Choice one
> > ALL video upload services allow for linking to source video that 
is
> > already hosted somewhere. OR allow RSS linking to source vid.
> >
> > Pros-
> > 1. It would be easier for people like me to have content listed 
in
> > many services, quickly.
> > 2. My daily video would only consume 30 mb of webspace TOTAL.
> > 3. Video Services would have more content with less server 
overhead.
> >
> > Cons-
> > 1. Video services would not have as much "exclusive" content.
> > 2. Video Services would not be able to control the availability 
of a
> > video or the bandwidth that each video's hosting could handle.
> > 3. The abosolute tracking would be sketchy.
> > 4. Those video services that currently CONVERT video formats for 
you
> > would be very limited by not having the source file in hand. Like
> > for Mobile phones, ipods, and such.
> >
> >
> > Choice two
> > Have a video broadcast service... this could be a web 
application,
> > Or more intriging, it could be a windows application like googles
> > video uploader.
> > You upload to one place... when this happens it is concurrently
> > uploaded to many other places...
> >
> > Pros-
> > 1. Less work for the content provider
> > 2. This could be a paid service... make money$$
> > 3. Maximum exposure could be obtained with minimal effort
> > 4. Video service would still have the source files.
> > 5. Video services would likely become allies with such service 
for
> > the content alone, and would likely allow a service to sign up 
new
> > user accounts.
> > 6. In the above scenario this service would become a one stop 
shop
> > for new vloggers..."Got a video?, get it out there! 
vlogblaster.com
> > sets you up with accounts for the most popular video submission
> > services out there, AND uploads your video for you, Blast your 
vlog
> > today!"
> >
> > Cons-
> > 1. A 30mb would eat up a ton of server space on the WEB, in an
> > example a 30 mb file uploaded to
> > 2. The machine running the application, the content providers
> > computer OR the server that the application os run on, would have
> > all it could do for the better part of an hour. OR the Vlogger
> > community could build a SETI type network to handle such tasks.
> > 3. Script would have to written for each video upload service.
> >
> > Personally I see choice two as the only option, I think that it
> > would be reasonable to suggest that 5 services could be 
targetted,
> > with more development slated for the future.
> >
> > Now I know for a fact that I currently consume in the range of 
150mb
> > of server space in lala land for just ONE 30mb video. Each and 
every
> > day. Because it has to get uploaded to so many places. This 
could be
> > bad in the long haul... Liberals against server space... video
> > wasteland... I can see the march on washington now.
> >
> > Google video, akimbo, youtube, stupid videos, cnet, and MANY 
more I
> > am sure I a missing some big ones here... your help as to which 
five
> > could be targetted would be helpful.
> >
> > I look forward to your thoughts, and suggestions on whether such 
a
> > service is feasible, or even if it already exists...
> >
> > Now, I did not sign up as a vlog week 2006 participant, but I do
> > however, do a daily video anyway, I plan to in the spirit of this
> > week do a weekend edition of unzappedtv... you will not however 
see
> > me in the shower or bathtub.
> > Our First coorespondant from argentina is on the show today, 
with a
> > funny commercial that FORD is running...
> >
> >
> > PEACE OUT!
> > Jason
> > http://www.unzappedtv.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Me: http://michaelverdi.com
> R&D: http://evilvlog.com
> Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org
> Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org
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