I honestly don't know how this can be made right.

First thing, though, stop spidering immediately. Remove all unclaimed feeds at once. Not just the feeds of those who discover what you are doing. All of them.

Doing those things could go a long way in showing your intentions.

On 4/7/06, dmitry_veoh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Anne,

I undertand your frustration, but I assure you we are not doing this
to inflate numbers.  We are just trying to create a good service.  I
agree that this is serious business, but I think that our intent is in
line with video bloggers; to help people communicate.

Maybe these will help clear things up a bit:
http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e45222y74PgXDw
http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e53117YBnkkPyp

We should have spent time in this group, but unfortunately we have
been understaffed, and time just got away from us.  I am here now, and
I am listening to you.  I want to do whatever it takes to make things
right.

I hope that you take me up on that offer.  What can I do to make
things right?

Dmitry

--- In [email protected], "Anne Walk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> Thankyou for responding to the group.
>
> I have a few questions and comments about this whole situation.
>
> I simply cannot see how taking video without the maker's knowledge or
> consent, creating a "series" with it, linking back to your own site,
using
> no attribution whatsoever and implicating them as members of your
community
> is a compelling service for video producers.
>
> I think it is, however, a compelling service to Veoh as it gives an
> artificial inflation of your numbers which, I'm sure, is quite
helpful when
> looking for VC funding for your company.
>
> In your terms of service, you spell out your own copyright for the
site. How
> would you feel about a company that decided it wanted to help you
avoid the
> costs of running your site by sucking the content out of it and
hosting it
> on their own site without your knowledge or consent. They could then
drive
> your traffic to them, thereby saving you the costs associated with
> bandwidth. I'm sure that you wouldn't perceive it as helpful though,
would
> you?
>
> If you truly thought that what you were doing was helpful, you might
have
> come in here before now and told us what a marvelous job you were doing
> helping us all and encouraging us to come claim our feeds. Instead,
we find
> out accidentally and now you are here to tell us that it's for our
own good
> and that you are helping us. Not cool. Not legal. Not helpful.
>
> Sorry if this sounds harsh but this is serious business.
>
> On 4/7/06, dmitry_veoh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for approving me for this group.
> >
> > I wanted all of you to know that I am reading these messages and hear
> > you loud and clear.
> >
> > It is not our intention to steal anyone's content.  We are simply
> > trying to create a compelling service for video producers of all
> > kinds, with a big focus on enabling video bloggers to be free of
> > restrictions to broadcast.  In fact, we did consider simply creating a
> > site where we would link to videoblogs, but felt that this may cause
> > you to experience  significant costs.  The reason we transcode the
> > content is to offload those costs from you to us.  Maybe this is not
> > the right thing to do.  We are open to your comments, and will obey
> > your wishes.
> >
> > Please forgive us if you are one of the people that feel that we have
> > gone about this the wrong way, we will make changes to accommodate
> > your preferences.  We did not mean to infringe on anyone's rights, we
> > simply tried to make it simple for people to find your videos in a
> > single place.  This is an evolutionary process, and we are working on
> > refining it.  We would greatly appreciate your help in making Veoh a
> > great citizen of the video blogging world.
> >
> > For those of you that will be attending VloggerCon 2006, you will have
> > a chance to meet a few of us there, as we are going to be sponsoring
> > the event, and will throw a party afterwards.
> >
> > I encourage you to give us the benefit of the doubt that we are the
> > good guys.  We will do ANYTHING to prove that to you, really.
> >
> > I will personally make sure that anyone that wants their feed off of
> > our system gets a quick response to their wishes.
> >
> > Dmitry Shapiro
> > CEO
> > Veoh Networks, Inc.
> > 619-602-3305 cell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Anne Walk
> http://loadedpun.com
>







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