And I cannot speak for Veoh decisions.
I could speculate... but their is enough of that going around already ;-)
sull
On 4/10/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While I think that is a very good idea and appears to now be needed,
do you honestly think that would have changed matters with the Veoh
fiasco?
David
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>
> I wonder... maybe Andreas can chime in... does it make any sense to
modify
> cc licenses to include a clause about re-hosting and re-distributing
media
> from that host? If a license can state whether or not it is
allowed, then
> maybe that would streamline things?
>
> sull
>
> On 4/8/06, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The point I am trying to make is: I want action, and removing all
videos
> > (not just feeds, videos) they gathered without opt-in would be a
start.
> >
> > Peter
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> >
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> > On 4/8/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4/8/06, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm throwing this
out for
> > > > comments here.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Acceptable response? I am annoyed by Veoh's response already.
A better
> > > question would be 'what is an acceptable action'. All I've heard is
> > > reposnse and not seen action.
> > >
> > > I've requested 3 times that they remove my feed. Once to Jarrod (a
> > > developer there) and twice to Dmitry after he emailed me
> > > personally....asking to talk on the phone sometime. I don't
want talk, I
> > > want action.
> > >
> > > His words mean nothing without action. The only action I've
seen him
> > > take is to disable the big feeds, like blip, ourmedia, etc.
Does that tell
> > > us that us little people don't matter enough for him to act now?
Doesn't
> > > sound like 'friendly actions'
> > >
> > > Here's one I personally could live with: this kind of "re-hosting"
> > > > should be opt-in.
> > > >
> > > > That would mean that:
> > > > 1) They remove ALL videos they've spidered and rehosted from their
> > > > site.
> > > > 2) They only keep the ones for feeds that the feed owners have
claimed
> > > > and where the feed owners have given permission for them to
"re-host".
> > > >
> > >
> > > I agree
> > >
> > > For me, that makes sense. I don't think Veoh is "evil", I judge
> > > > companies by their actions. And this action would tell me: "We
> > > > understand why this was wrong, and we're fixing it for real."
> > > >
> > >
> > > I judge companies by acitons as well. See above what I think of
their
> > > actions.
> > >
> > > I agree with a lot of people saying that Veoh is a good site,
they have
> > > a lot to offer...but, I really have a hard time swallowing the
fact that out
> > > of everyone on the Veoh team, no one stood up and said...'hey
wait, we can't
> > > do this, this is licence infringement' Some of them are members
of this
> > > community that 'get it'...they know.
> > >
> > > Claiming ignorance now and not removing the offending feeds is just
> > > compounding and really frustrating me.
> > >
> > > I am surprised we haven't heard more from the founding members here
> > > aside from Peter.
> > >
> > > Comments?
> > >
> > > Peter
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> > > On 4/8/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:12:39 +0200, John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Little green tickets of money are one way to be selfish.
Being the
> > > > > center of attention is another way to be selfish. There are
> > > incentives
> > > > > for Slashdot and Digg, just as for any "commercial" entity.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're still not respecting the rights of creators. If
someone rips
> > > off
> > > > > your website, blog, search history, financial data, does it
matter
> > > if
> > > > > they get something other than little green tickets in return?
> > > >
> > > > Legally, yes.
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