Damn you. Amuse me with some speculation! I'm stuck at work and it's sunny and 74 outside. That's like the middle of freakin summer here in Minnesota!
David http;//www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In [email protected], "Michael Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I didnt offer the thought as a "what if?" for Veoh... > And I cannot speak for Veoh decisions. > I could speculate... but their is enough of that going around already ;-) > > sull > > On 4/10/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > While I think that is a very good idea and appears to now be needed, > > do you honestly think that would have changed matters with the Veoh > > fiasco? > > > > David > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > > --- In [email protected], "Michael Sullivan" > > <sulleleven@> wrote: > > > > > > I wonder... maybe Andreas can chime in... does it make any sense to > > modify > > > cc licenses to include a clause about re-hosting and re-distributing > > media > > > from that host? If a license can state whether or not it is > > allowed, then > > > maybe that would streamline things? > > > > > > sull > > > > > > On 4/8/06, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The point I am trying to make is: I want action, and removing all > > videos > > > > (not just feeds, videos) they gathered without opt-in would be a > > start. > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > -- > > > > http://mefeedia.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/8/06, Devlon <duthied@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 4/8/06, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm throwing this > > out for > > > > > > comments here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Acceptable response? I am annoyed by Veoh's response already. > > A better > > > > > question would be 'what is an acceptable action'. All I've heard is > > > > > reposnse and not seen action. > > > > > > > > > > I've requested 3 times that they remove my feed. Once to Jarrod (a > > > > > developer there) and twice to Dmitry after he emailed me > > > > > personally....asking to talk on the phone sometime. I don't > > want talk, I > > > > > want action. > > > > > > > > > > His words mean nothing without action. The only action I've > > seen him > > > > > take is to disable the big feeds, like blip, ourmedia, etc. > > Does that tell > > > > > us that us little people don't matter enough for him to act now? > > Doesn't > > > > > sound like 'friendly actions' > > > > > > > > > > Here's one I personally could live with: this kind of "re-hosting" > > > > > > should be opt-in. > > > > > > > > > > > > That would mean that: > > > > > > 1) They remove ALL videos they've spidered and rehosted from their > > > > > > site. > > > > > > 2) They only keep the ones for feeds that the feed owners have > > claimed > > > > > > and where the feed owners have given permission for them to > > "re-host". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree > > > > > > > > > > For me, that makes sense. I don't think Veoh is "evil", I judge > > > > > > companies by their actions. And this action would tell me: "We > > > > > > understand why this was wrong, and we're fixing it for real." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I judge companies by acitons as well. See above what I think of > > their > > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with a lot of people saying that Veoh is a good site, > > they have > > > > > a lot to offer...but, I really have a hard time swallowing the > > fact that out > > > > > of everyone on the Veoh team, no one stood up and said...'hey > > wait, we can't > > > > > do this, this is licence infringement' Some of them are members > > of this > > > > > community that 'get it'...they know. > > > > > > > > > > Claiming ignorance now and not removing the offending feeds is just > > > > > compounding and really frustrating me. > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised we haven't heard more from the founding members here > > > > > aside from Peter. > > > > > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > -- > > > > > http://mefeedia.com > > > > > > > > > > On 4/8/06, Andreas Haugstrup <solitude@> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:12:39 +0200, John Dowdell <jdowdell@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Little green tickets of money are one way to be selfish. > > Being the > > > > > > > center of attention is another way to be selfish. There are > > > > > incentives > > > > > > > for Slashdot and Digg, just as for any "commercial" entity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're still not respecting the rights of creators. If > > someone rips > > > > > off > > > > > > > your website, blog, search history, financial data, does it > > matter > > > > > if > > > > > > > they get something other than little green tickets in return? > > > > > > > > > > > > Legally, yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen > > > > > > <URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ > > > > > > > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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