Nope. Unless that's new functionality added to IE 7
-Josh
On 4/21/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nice idea, but given how long it's taken to get support for just JPEG, GIF
> and PNG in the <img> tag, i'm not too hopeful about a universal <video> tag
> that supports multiple video formats
>
> i think we're on our own on this > >
> does IE know how to *properly* display a transparent PNG yet? I doubt it
> :p
>
>
>
> Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> Honestly, I'd rather see browsers (and other software) support video
> natively. (The same way that, for example, PNG's are supported natively and
> do NOT require a plug-in to be viewed.) And have it so all you need is to
> use a <video> element to embed videos... like the how HTML <img> element
> embeds images. (SMIL already has a <video> element.)
>
>
> I like Flash. (And I really don't want to get into a heated debate
> but,....) (Although alot of people can....) Not everyone can view Flash.
> And (more importantly) Flash isn't an "open format" (like HTML, XML, PNG,
> Ogg Vorbis, Ogg Theora, etc) that everyone has the freedom to implement and
> do whatever they want with.
>
> Flash is a proprietary format owned by Adobe/Macromedia. And
> Adobe/Macromedia restricts what can and can't be done with their free/gratis
> Flash player. Not to mention Adobe/Macromedia seems to be the only ones
> allowed to create server side software for Flash... for example, the RTMP
> protocol is completely closed and proprietary... and it's yet to be seen if
> Adobe/Macromedia would invoke the DMCA against anyone who reverse engineered
> it.
>
> But having said all that, I do think it is acceptable to have Flash as one
> of many different options of watching a vlog. But it should NOT be the only
> one. You have to have a way for completely Free access to vlogs and
> Internet TV. (There should NOT be a "tax" on vlogs and Internet TV.)
>
> Please, refer to this for something related:
> http://maketelevision.com/log/why_ogg_theora_matters_for_internet_tv
>
>
> See ya
>
>
> On 4/21/06, John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ FYI: This thread was started as a response to another conversation, in
> the "What's The Perfect Vlogging Software?" thread. This means that the
> new topic will be invisible to those whose emailer follows threading
> conventions, and made the archive misthreaded too:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/39116
> Hitting "New" for new conversations and pasting in the Yahoo Groups
> mailing address is cleaner than hitting "Reply" to start a new
> discussion, thanks in advance. ]
>
>
> Nathan Miller asked for help in understanding this incoming message::
> >> Hey Nathan, do you realise you've got ActiveX employed
> >> on your Web site? It's causing these really annoying
> >> pop-up messages to appear in my browser every time I
> >> access your page. I use IE 6. Can you do something
> >> about this?
>
> Not knowing the literal alert the person saw makes it hard for any of us
> to be definitive.
>
> If this person is using Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows, then
> they are by definition using ActiveX Controls to render some of their
> content.
>
> I visited your site in Firefox/WinXP, and also saw alerts. I have an
> older version of QuickTime installed, but did not have the codecs
> necessary to view that QT content. Here's what's going on:
>
> When someone visits your video page in a plugin-using browser (Mozilla,
> Safari, Opera, others) then the server identifies the media type of this
> extended content via the MIME type abbreviations. The browser then
> checks which plugins it has that can display this video type, invokes
> the plugin, and displays the content. In Microsoft's Window browser, the
> OBJECT tag identifies the ActiveX Control which the designer wants to
> use (via the CLSID), and identifies any minimum version (via the
> CODEBASE argument).
>
> In both cases, the browser will throw up an alert if the plugin or
> control is not installed. IE/Win will also do a version check, and will
> also do a background-download of the necessary Control. Some plugins
> (such as QuickTime, I believe) will also throw up their own alert if the
> renderer is too old to render more modern content.
>
> Bottom line: If your visitor's browser cannot yet render your content,
> they will see an alert, and the browser will try to guide them to an
> updated browser extension, in either Netscape Plugin or ActiveX wrapper.
>
>
> What to do? This person will be seeing lots of similar alerts in
> IE/Win... it's not solely your responsibility. Your *site* doesn't use
> ActiveX so much as his *browser* uses ActiveX, and your site tries to
> accommodate their choice.
>
> How to minimize? This is self-serving of me, admitted, but it's easiest
> to use video in the Adobe Flash video architecture. More people have
> this browser extension than any other, and more people have the current
> version than have the current versions of any other WWW technology.
>
> This will not eliminate all browser-incapability alerts, but will reduce
> them greatly... in its first three months over 50% of consumers tested
> had already updated to Flash Player 8, so the odds are much better that
> your audience will not see any update alerts.
>
>
> Sorry I took so long, but I hope the above background helps figure out
> what they're objecting to. (And like other folks in this thread, I don't
> see any connection to the "Eolas" behavior change in IE/Win... only
> commonality seems to be the word "ActiveX" in the title.)
>
> jd
>
>
>
>
>
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