I can see where you are coming from with that sugestion, but it seems a tad OTT to me and would possibly harm the ability of a concensus forming around these 'rules'?
Another problem with it is the concept of using something 'without permission'. At the heart of the abuses we have seen, is the fact that there are lots of different opinions from individuals and companies, about what 'permission' is. Specifically, you only have to read some of the digg comments or comments on some blogs about the network2.tv issue, to see that some people think that when you psot stuff on the net, you are giving people permission to do whatever they want with it. Clearly thats a wrong assumption to make, but there is a mess of grey when we consider exactly what permissions we are explicity granting. Creative commons helps sort that out, it states what rights we are giving without need for further contact. But it only works if most people understand CC a bit, and if an atmosphere is created where companies cannot plead ignorance. The longstanding ability of commercial sites to get away with hosting copyrighted TV clips just because they are 'viral' doesnt help us at all. The 'we are just a guide' and 'we are just a search engine' line from some offenders also tells us something about assumptions that are made. Even huge entities such as Google test the waters on copyright law a lot, to see just what they can get away with. I sincerely believe this discussion can be very fruitful, I hope it lasts here, and as an outcome I would like to see some videos that explain the 'rules' to people, in as clear a way as the creative commons videos do, indeed probably as an extension to them makes sense. Its the most hypocritical thing Ive said here as I always waffle in text and rarely video, and really, the power of video to convey the message is not something I need to tell people in this group about! And yet somehow we havent ended up with many videos about this stuff that are a clear guide. We get the odd angry rant and interesting abstract remix with a cutting edge, and those are great, but nothing like the creative-commons videos? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], "johnleeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you used content without permission of the owner you have to pay > the owner's asking price for that use. The first use without > permission is not excusable. APPLIED RETRO-ACTIVELY, meaning that you > pay up even though this "rule" was not in place at the time of > transgression.
