Agreed.
Now we have a wiki to expand.
The point is to highlights TOS through the lens of what a creator needs to know.

Usually a TOS is written for what a lawyer needs to know.

And very often TOS totally ignores what is important for creator's.
The TOS wiki is the first step in
Educating ourselves and video hosting sites as to the desires of videobloggers.

Jay


  

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Hudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:00:14 
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Terms of Service post

Its a very hard thing to boil a really large legal document into a couple 
bullet points. I think jd's done a great job, its just a matter of accounting 
for some shades of gray. 
 
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
<videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> 
 To: videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
<videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Thu Jan 18 15:17:20 2007 
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Terms of Service post 
 
 I would say this problem is in part due to the fact that 'can they 
 sell or license your video' is worded unclearly, does a yes mean yes 
 to both sell and license, or just license? It would be better if that 
 were clearer. 
 
 I welcome warmly any guides or other things that can spread clarity on 
 these issues, but unfortunately the devil is in the detail and I guess 
 its easy to get it slightly wrong. 
 
 Also theres a mistake in the google section, it mentions yahoo! 
 
 Cheers 
 
 Steve of Elbows 
 --- In videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> 
yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 > 
 > I'd actually like to apologize for my overly hasy reaction. I would 
 just like to discuss the issue of content sales, ads (which are 
 opt-in) and "wide reuse" rights. 
 > 
 > 
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
 > From: videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> 
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 > To: videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
 > <videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com>; 
 JD Lasica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 > Sent: Thu Jan 18 14:06:48 2007 
 > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Terms of Service post 
 > 
 > On 1/18/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 > > Fyi, this inaccurately describes blip's tos. Its wrong on several 
 points, including extremely major ones. We do not, for instance, have 
 the right to resell our users' work without express user permission 
 and would never do such a thing. 
 > 
 > Im cc'ing JD on this email so he can respond. 
 > 
 > jay 
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 > Here I am.... 
 > http://jaydedman.: <http://jaydedman.com> com 
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