Are we seriously okay with opt-out?  A thousand aggregators take your 
material and use it however they want.  Does anyone have the time to 
sift the net and sift those sites to ensure your material is being 
used as you have licensed it to be used?  A CC, non-commercial 
license means you have to ask me if you can serve ads against my 
content.  It means you can redistribute but you can't make money from 
doing so without further permission and so you have to ask to serve 
ads against my content.  It doesn't mean I have to find out that 
you're breaking my license and then track you down and get you to 
stop.  The burden on me to do that would break my back, let alone my 
spirits.  How many emails would I have to send, how many phone calls 
would I have to make to get the offending website to stop?  How long 
would it take them to compensate me?  It's untenable.  Opt-out is 
bogus, unethical and probably illegal.  Are we really okay with 
this?  Google is getting fried in the press.  Lawsuits are being 
filed.  Opt-out is bogus.  What am I, krill to be swept up in the 
great big whale-y maw of some aggregator to whom I have to ask not to 
be eaten after I'm halfway down his throat?  If that's the new 
regime, then let this be public notice: please don't come take stuff 
out of my house either.  Thanks.

Mike, this is not aimed at you.  I appreciate the laudable work 
you've been doing on behalf of this entire community.  I'm presenting 
my questions and opinions to everyone on this list.  I think it's 
important.  Opt-out is an ethically bankrupt, swindling, negligent 
policy of pillaging and these companies want to use it because it's 
in their self-interest.  Well it's not in mine.  And it's not in 
yours either.

Please think about the implications.

--- In [email protected], Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> All I was really looking for from Magnify was attribution and a 
link.
> 
> Any word on that front?
> 
> I just think it is unacceptable for them to attribute blip.tv and  
> then leave no avenue for their viewer to make it to the rest of my 
work.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ron
> 
> On Jan 25, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Mike Hudack wrote:
> 
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I just wanted to give everyone an update on where we stand with  
> > MyHeavy
> > and Magnify, since I've met with the CEOs both companies in the 
last
> > three days. Both of the meetings were for the same purpose -- 
they  
> > took
> > place because people on this list complained about the way the  
> > companies
> > were aggregating their videos. The meeting agenda was simple: to 
work
> > with these companies to allow them to meet their business goals  
> > without
> > infringing on the copy or other rights of original content 
creators.
> >
> > Both meetings went well. MyHeavy removed aggregated video content 
from
> > its site immediately after we spoke on the phone. This was an easy
> > thing for them to do, since for them aggregation is a feature of a
> > larger business. In the case of Magnify it's much more difficult 
to do
> > this because their entire business is based on aggregation.
> >
> > MyHeavy is planning to bring aggregation back, but to do so in a 
way
> > that conforms with the best practices that have been (I believe)  
> > largely
> > agreed upon and endorsed by this group. Specifically, they will 
not
> > include advertising in the playback experience without express
> > permission from original content creators; they will not 
watermark the
> > video; they will give credit by prominently noting the original 
source
> > of the video in the form of a link to the original content  
> > creator's Web
> > site; and they will allow content creators to control aggregation
> > through support for the MediaRSS restriction standard (whch will 
be
> > controllable through a MyHeavy aggregation control panel in the  
> > blip.tv
> > Dashboard).
> >
> > Magnify continues to aggregate blip.tv video to their 
destination  
> > sites,
> > and they are currently including Google AdSense advertisements 
on  
> > pages
> > that include video players from other sources, including blip.tv. 
We
> > are currently working with Magnify's CEO to determine how best to
> > address this issue, since Magnify's entire business model is 
based on
> > the ability to monetize aggregators through advertising. Either 
way,
> > Magnify has agreed to support the MediaRSS restriction standard 
in the
> > same way as MyHeavy and others. You will be able to control  
> > aggregation
> > to Magnify through a control panel in the blip.tv Dashboard.  
> > Because of
> > Magnify's current position on advertising we are considering the
> > possibility of making the default position for Magnify "opt-out"  
> > rather
> > than opt-in (unlike providers who adhere closely to all points of 
the
> > best practices). Content creators who are okay with player-
adjacent
> > AdSense advertisements because they want the extra traffic that  
> > Magnify
> > may generate will easily be able to opt in.
> >
> > Please let me know if these are acceptable outcomes for you, and 
we'll
> > proceed with implementation with both companies.
> >
> > -------
> > Mike Hudack
> > CEO, blip.tv
> >
> > Office: 917-546-6989
> > AIM: mikehudack
> >
> > Read the blip.tv blog: http://blog.blip.tv/
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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