On 1/28/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, micropayments, that favorite topic of mine! Way back when, long > before blip, I tried to build a micropayments service with a few of the > folks now at blip. The challenges we saw then are the same challenges > we see now: in order to do micropayments effectively you need a system > to pool transactions, and to do this you need a compelling collection of > content from a compelling collection of providers. At the end of the > day building a real micropayments system is really about network > building. No one's managed to do this well.
You seem to have atleast figured something out. As I'm fond of saying... and this hopefully hits the nail on it's head... "The world doesn't need more ways of bying more stuff of less value, the world needs more ways of buying less stuff of more value." Another way I like to put it.... I just plain don't fucking want to spend my money a half a cent or two pennies at a time. Fuck that shit. If a website, or indeed any content maker or store of any sort can't make something of sufficient value that it's wother the 30 sent transaction fee credit card companies charge then I absolutely do nt want to do business with them. Also... there's something that you say about networks that is quite true. For example if MyHeavy, or blip or anyone can't privide enough of a market share to make buying ads with them worth the hassel then why bother. There is however I noticed some businesses that DON'T have a bit of a network effect. Some examples are CDbaby, eMusic, and Nathan Frietas' Cruxy Here's why I think that is... Your interest in these services is actally unimportant unlike many store systems. Your trust and level of interest lies soley with the musician or artist. If you have such a deep and meaning ful connection with a musician and you've already listened to and are a big fan of their music ... and they're nowhere else to get it you are going to be willing to shell out $13 or whatever. And you don't even have to care who CDBaby or eMusic or Cruxy are. They're just service providers... just a transaction layer... all your trust is with that artist... and if they referred you to one of these places you're not going to care. Which reminds me. I have to buy something off of each of these services. I don't know what, but I'm sure I can find something good. I just want to have that experience, to understand and enjoy it... that experience of bying legal, non-drm music and the majority of that money going to a real live independant artist. I know just where to start too! Whole Wheat Radio, My favorite podcast EVAR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Wheat_Radio Peace out, -Mike > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Watson > > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:00 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and > > aggregators in general > > > > I was just thinking of micro-payments. Any info out there on > > the topic, or can we have a conversation. > > > > Cheers, > > Ron Watson > > > > Pawsitive Vybe > > 11659 Berrigan Ave > > Cedar Springs, MI 49319 > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > > Personal Contact: > > 616.802.8923 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On the Web: > > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > http://k9disc.com > > http://k9disc.blip.tv > > > > > > On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:26 AM, johnleeke wrote: > > > > > It is fascinating to read between the lines and learn business > > > diplomacy from Mike. > > > > > > I agree with David, when it comes to the legality and > > morality of the > > > issue, "opt out" simply empowers the illegal and immoral actions of > > > these secondary agrigators and distributors of our content. > > They want > > > and take our content because it has a higher value that > > what they have > > > to pay for it. The fact that their business model is based > > on paying > > > absolutely nothing for the content is the problem. > > > > > > "We cannot afford it" sounds pretty lame when they have > > million dollar > > > budgets. But even on lesser budgets what happened to the "micro > > > payment" idea? Wern't computers supposed to make "micro payments" > > > practical? Why don't they set a policy of always paying, > > then pay what > > > they can negotiate with the content maker? Blip has done it > > so we know > > > it is possible. If they cannot arrive at an agreement with > > the content > > > makers, then they don't take the content. > > > > > > This seems pretty simple, and most of us learned it from > > our Mommies > > > by the time we were ten: > > > > > > "If it doesn't belong to you, then don't take it." > > > > > > Every particle of the conflict in this issue arises out of the fact > > > that it appears they think they can ignore this basic tenant of our > > > morality-based society. > > > > > > I think the fact that they do, or do not, "show their > > faces" in this > > > discussion tells us a lot about their character and intent. > > > > > > Mike and all, thanks for the good works and thoughtful discussions. > > > > > > John > > > www.HistoricHomeWorks.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
