On 1/30/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't believe that contests necessarily have to be zero-sum. If > there's adequate promotional opportunity for all participants (or at > least those participants who have something of a quality entry) they can > avoid being truly zero sum games.
You may be right. In fact this reminds me of Current TV. As Rushkoff said they missed a real opportunity to do something revolutionary. THey sold the hype of a grassroots network... and they could have given people a platform to have their voices heard by encouraging them to create their own channels... but they didn't. In the end they just said "email us your videos"... which IS a zero sum game because 99% of the content would never ever, ever be seen. Ultimately what rushkff was talking about would have been a TV network that rested on top of a giant network of home made media pretty much like youtube. Current TV would have had the licenscing rights to all videos hosted on their site... and kids would have had much more incentive to post their videos because even if current tv only showed a tiny percentage of them on TV the community could have enjoyed each others media. Ironicly youtube is thinking of doing a TV station... so YES you could definitely say Current TV missed a major opportunity. A huge loss of vision. So... this pulver media thing... it is by no means evil... and it's not zero sum... network 2 is encouraging you to use your voice... and I don't think it's to much to ask have them tagged something so they can be tracked... but I just have one suggestion. Network2 should STOP emailing people! It's the prefered method of spammers... I think it's definitely one of the things that immediately sets people off.... maybe not as much with this promotion... but making a first introduction and request... of course that puts people off... it's the same way all fishing scams work. So network2 has to establish more trust... and secondly... jeff pulver hasn't been that active here... and he's making big heavy handed moves... this is a space defined by grass roots, the only other giveaway was Dabble gave away some shuffles... it's based on mutual respect not advertising and promotional gimickry. So... more participation... less heavy handed moves, less old school obvious marketing moves... and more respect and simple honest appeal would help soften the mood. Personally, I can't wait to see what's next around the corner for network2. Peace -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [chrisbrogan.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:36 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Jeff Pulver > > > > Interesting points, Jan, and I appreciate your opinion. > > Contests do have a way of picking a winner, which makes them > > a "zero sum game," as Covey calls it. > > > > What do I value? Participation. I love community when it is positive. > > (It's a personal flaw of mine that I don't do negative very > > well. Yes, I know discourse is healthy. I am trying to learn > > how to better manage > > it.) > > > > To me, not as someone from Network2, but just me, > > participation is what this means. Is it marketing for > > Network2? Hell yes. But consider these two scenarios: > > > > 1.) Old way: pay people to pretend to be videobloggers. > > > > 2.) New way: ask videobloggers and producers to make it themselves. > > > > Recently, Robert Scoble took crap for making a video about > > Intel. My very personal opinion is that I'd rather watch > > Robert's interview than yet another ad showing a sterile room > > with flashing neon graphics. > > Robert asked questions, showed us things, got a voice. Participation. > > > > Yes, there's marketing. Yes, there's a competition. But in > > another way, it's a chance for a couple hundred people to > > show themselves, should they choose to do so. > > > > Another cool thing about the Internet over traditional broadcasting: > > we want to show them all. > > > > Oh! Important: Steve Elbows mentioned something about > > negative or parody ads. I think those are fine, too. Remember > > the GM thing? Well, we're not selling a product. We're > > selling an idea. You want to sh!t on the idea of watching > > Internet TV? Cool. Have a blast! You want to sh!t on > > Network2, that it's not [good/right/useful/pretty], that's > > cool too. That's the best part of this two-way communication medium. > > You can raise your voice. > > > > Will we FEATURE it? Maybe not. But we'll watch it for sure. > > And you control the broadcast of it, so you can host it > > wherever. So, if you want to post negative or parody, that's > > okay, too. > > > > I value participation. That's what was behind PodCamp. That's > > what's behind the projects I spend my time on. That's where I > > go when I'm not with my family (meetups and the like). > > > > Hope that helps answer your question. > > > > --Chris Brogan... > > Community Developer > > Network2.tv > > > > --- In [email protected], "Jan McLaughlin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What do you value? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
