I agree that Compete is comparing apples and oranges, but it's still 
reasonable to assume that they're not far off the mark and that YouTube 
and MySpace are the top two sites and of course both are relatively 
closed systems (if I search for something on YouTube it's not going to 
give me results from MySpace video or vice versa). I think this is a big 
challenge because let's say your video is hosted on Blip.tv or 
Revver....assuming Compete's numbers are close even though your video 
might show up in an AOL Video or Google Video search over half of the 
time people look for video on the internet there is no way they are 
going to find your stuff unless you upload separately to YouTube and/or 
MySpace and agree to their TOS.

With any web site or blog I've ever been involved in, over half the 
visitors discover the site via search engines. How do you deal with the 
fact that the main places people are searching and using video are 
closed off from the outside? Especially in light of the network 
neutrality issues with MySpace Kent raised recently.


- Andrew


Mike Meiser wrote:

> Precisely. Well said mike.
>
> I completely agree.
>
> I have one question. Does the fact that we're comparing apple's and
> oranges mean this thing still hasn't even shaken out the winners and
> loosers yet?
>
> To me it would seem to indicate there's a lot more terretory yet to cover.
>
> -Mike
> mmeiser.com/blog
> mefeedia.com
>
> On 2/3/07, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:mike%40blip.tv>> wrote:
> > Compete's numbers are even worse than Alexa's, which are themselves very
> > often demonstrated to be false. Compete's methodology is inherently 
> flawed
> > on numerous dimensions. If you have any doubt about this look back 
> to the Ze
> > Frank/Andrew Michael Baron disagreement as just one of many examples.
> >
> > That said, I'm not sure I disagree with the conclusions in general. The
> > funny thing is that Compete is comparing apples and oranges. Google 
> Video is
> > rapidly transitioning into a discovery engine that doesn't host. No 
> one I
> > know (other than Yahoo employees who are forced to) uses Yahoo Video to
> > host, but tons of people use it to find new videos from sites all 
> over the
> > Web. AOL carries tons of commercial content. This is like comparing 
> ebay and
> > amazon traffic in 1997 and saying "Amazon is winning! Amazon is 
> winning!"
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > To: Yahoo Videoblogging Group <[email protected] 
> <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Sat Feb 03 17:43:45 2007
> > Subject: [videoblogging] Top Video Sites in December 2006
> >
> > NewTeeVee posted a list of the leading video sites according to Compete
> > data for the month of December 2006. Here's how the top five break down:
> >
> > YouTube 41.1%
> > MySpace 19.3%
> > Google 10.2%
> > AOL 6.2%
> > Yahoo 3.6%
> >
> > You can read the full list at
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/newteevee/~3/85628611/ 
> <http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/newteevee/%7E3/85628611/>
> >
> > What's interesting is that Revver doesn't even show up in the Top 20.
> > NewTeeVee does point out that Compete is relatively new and could be
> > under-reporting numbers. Still, that's interesting.
> >
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