OK it doesnt answer all our questions but its hardly a load of nothing. Section 3.2.2 says that video can be downloaded to memory/storage card. And can then be watched from a 'my videos' element of the software.
The RSS feed info shows that it supports things like media:thumbnail Actually Ive just been looking at it again and found stuff about supported video formats, which includes h264, details of bitrate etc. I see no mention of flash, so I presume the youtube mobile site uses one of the other formats that this device supports, but Ive no way to be entirely sure. Anyway I see this as progress, but I still feel like I'll have to wait quite some time to get a nice mobile that can handle most of the popular videoblog file formats, aggregate them intelligently, use wifi or 3G, etc. And pending more info on the youtube thing, will spend more years groaning at the walled-garden & cost to user issues that arent going away. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unforetunately that document was a whole lot of nothing. :( > > THe only think it does denote is that there support of RSS is design > for live online viewing and that they don't have an experience > designer onstaff. It would appear the only way to watch a video > podcast is to brows the feed and download the files one at a time. > Very sad. > > I didn't see anything about flash support, but maybe I didn't look hard enough. > > My guess is the Nokia is supporting youtube's standard RSS feeds which > just enclose a flash file. While nice feeds you still cannot download > or cache the flash and you must be live on a fairly highspeed network > to view videos. > > -Mike > > > On 2/13/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I cant find more info on the youtube side of things - certainly there > > are press releases about deals they have done with different mobile > > networks, to bring 'youtube mobile' to them. But I cant tell anything > > about whether they are going to use AVC/h264 instead of flash, > > although Steve Jobs hinted at that not too long ago in relation tot he > > iPhone. > > > > On the Nokia front Ive found a document with tons of info on how the > > Nokia Video Center' works. Its not a new document but seems to have > > mention of mediaRSS in there: > > > > http://americas.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/6442fe0d-964f-40ac-8d94-89d4a17adfd9/RSS_Support_in_Nokia_Video_Center_v1_0_en.pdf.html > > > > It allows downloads or streaming. I havent read it in detail, I really > > need to get one of these Nokia devices to learn more, but they are > > still only just emerging in the UK, always seem to be just round the > > corner. > > > > Also sounds like theyve built stuff in to enable subscription-based > > content, and to enable network operators to restrict access (eg if the > > network operator doesnt provide full internet access). This ties in to > > what I am seeing with the youtube mobile announcements - that both the > > web service providers and the mobile oeprators see money in this > > stuff, and want to do individual deals with eachother to bring their > > stuff to mobiles, and charge the users. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > --- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" > > <groups-yahoo-com@> wrote: > > > > > > Is there any more info on this!? > > > > > > It's not clear that youtube is supporting open standards, or wether > > > there is some sort of proprietary system. We already knew Nokia had a > > > video blog aggregator that supported RSS... it definitely looks like > > > they rolled out a major release based on the screen snaps. Love that > > > it supports mediaRSS. > > > > > > The questions are this. > > > > > > 1) can you watch video OFFLINE, I.E. does it download and cache > > youtube videos > > > > > > 2) is Nokia supporting Flash videos or is youtube encoding to h264 or > > > another format more suitable to downloads. > > > > > > All I find is the following. > > > > > > "Nokia Web Browser with Mini Map > > > The Nokia Web Browser with Mini Map enables mobile discovery of videos > > > in websites such as the YouTube Mobile site in a similar way as with > > > PC web browsers. With YouTube Mobile now also compatible with the AVC > > > video format which is the most common format supported in mobile > > > devices, the single-click playback of videos is also possible in the > > > same intuitive way as with PC web browsers. The Nokia Web Browser with > > > Mini Map and AVC video playback are standard features in all the > > > latest Nokia Nseries multimedia computers." > > > > > > Basically this implies that you must be ONLINE on a wifi connection to > > > view videos. Basically just support for flash in web pages. This is an > > > alternative to the RSS video aggregator. > > > > > > And then there's this. > > > > > > "Nokia Video Center > > > The new Nokia Video Center offers a comprehensive and user friendly > > > mobile video RSS feed and video on demand consumption experience with > > > an easy-to-use interface for discovering, viewing and storing one's > > > favorite content on the Nokia Nseries multimedia computer. It combines > > > branded video RSS feed services, internet videos and sideloaded videos > > > from the PC into one single place such as the Nokia N95 and the > > > recently announced Nokia N93i." > > > > > > This implies some sort of simple editorial guide. It's VERY vague. > > > But it seems to imply something like fireant... where you have a guide > > > or directory and a piece of desktop software, probably windows only > > > and SYNC to the nokia device. What's called a desktop hub model. > > > > > > Interesting neither of these imply the third model mefeedia is a huge > > > proponent of, though mefeedia is naturally 100% supported by the Nokia > > > devices. Our model is to route multiple video podcasts feeds through > > > a single channel, also ussually RSS, directly to the device. Making > > > the webservice a hub thus allowing media to bypass the desktop and be > > > aggregated directly to the device, not only allowing media to be > > > enjoyed anywhere there's a networked device without a sync cable but > > > also allowing subscriptions and queuing anywhere you can browse the > > > web, instead of tieing the subscription management to just one > > > computer. > > > > > > To recap, three models > > > > > > 1) live web page browsing and viewing of videos > > > > > > 2) the desktop computer as the center of a digital hub, with devices > > > syncing to the computer > > > > > > 3) the hub as a webservice > > > > > > -Mike > > > mefeedia.com > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/07, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.niallkennedy.com/blog/archives/2007/02/nokia-video-center.html > > > > > > > > Video podcatcher supports MediaRSS and h.264 videos. Can download from > > > > wifi. That's very promising! > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ > > > > my job: http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
