Cheers, yeah thats the other way to handle the mess that I have presented in my wafflings, for enlightened device manufacturers to pack in a huge range of supported formats (not too practical in some cases though), or to bundle software that takes care of conversion.
It didnt take Sony and Apple long to add video conversion to their desktop aggregators, and theres no way in the world that most vloggers and viewers want to be wondering about these issues too much. Its not foolproof, you'll always be able to find a format that wont work or that the converter cant even read, and its important that we help people identify anything they may be doing with their videos that is causing problems, that they may never know about. Judging by the fast increasing range of devices that can play video, I think its gone beyond the point of us realistically keeping up. When some device launches amid great hype, and seems to get large takeup, juicy sales and media recognition, I guess some vloggers will be keen to know if their stuff works, but for every device that gets attention there will be dozens that maybe on one person here owns or knows someone that owns one. I do really hate the idea of people having to convert though cos it spoils quality, takes time & electrical energy, and doesnt fit well with a future where people might be getting stuff straight to their mobile device a lot more. But what more can people reasonbly do? Vlogger already did what could be asked of them, ie onften provide in several formats or one downloadable format and a flash version created by a service for them. This functional fudge seems to have reduced the number of encoding questions on this list from a large percentage of the traffic in the first year or so, to an occasional topic, which can only be a good thing considering how much 'fun' this all is, even to me a nerd who spent an unhealthy amount of time studying compression without ever having anything worth compressing of my own lol. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I watch/listen to most of my vlogs and podcasts on my Creative Zen > M.....it converts almost all formats, although it does seem to have a > problem with Paul's here lately. Anyway yes there are "other" > devices that people use to watch video.....I for one really like the > Zen, it plays a number of video formats without having to be > converted. (mp1-mp2, avi, wmw, mov) Which is pretty cool.... > > Heath > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <steve@> > wrote: > > > > Interoperability is also not about downplaying the significance of > > incompatibility with popular devices that have not chosen to > > participate in your certification program. > > > > Despite all my waffle in the previous posts, Im reasonably confident > > that right now I could create an .mp4 with mpeg4 or h264 video, that > > will play on itunes, ipod, PSP, fireant, democracy, VLC, and in > dozens > > of other software players on windows, os x and linux. Its nowhere > near > > as easy as it should be, and in straightforward world where every > > device was likely to embrace divx, I would have absolutely nothing > > negative to say whatsoever about the codecs and tools that divx > > offers, your strategy, or anything youve said. > > > > But its not that clearcut, and so as in past years, you find me > > ranting about mpeg4 and seeking greater clarity. You say Sony, I > say ' > > so does that include the sony PSP and PS3?' > > > > It all comes down to what will happen with devices in the future, > and > > Im finding it to be really hard to tell what sorts of devices are > > actually out there and being used by people, is there even a huge > > demand from people for compatible files for their device? People > > focussed on the iPod because of its profile, and all the hype and > > media attention and consumer attention that goes with it. But we > know > > there are loads of other devices out there that can play video, some > > of them support divx, some support a range of mpeg4, some both. We > > hear about some of these devices here occasionally, but Ive no idea > > how many people are out there wanting to watch videoblogs on any of > > these. We could assume that comments from viewers would alert > everyone > > to these demands, I dunno, what sort of a tiny fraction of humans > are > > actually consuming video on mobile devices right now? Or on DivX > > certified DVD players? When video on mobile phones comes fully of > age, > > what format will it be using, will the masses actually use their > > phones for this? As you can see this means that Im still unclear as > to > > how big a problem this stuff will actually turn out to be in the > > future, maybe I shouldnt judge DivX & others so much based on device > > interoperability at all. After all the browser is where most of the > > action has been in the last 2 years, and I congratulate you again on > > sucessfully coming up with a divx browser solution that seems to > work > > well and definately removed the most dramatic reason why divx wasnt > a > > great fit for vloggers. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "JV" <jvinson@> wrote: > > > > > As for mp3 audio, this sounds more complicated than it is. Every > video > > > has some sort of audio, we just choose to use a very popular > codec. If > > > you want, you can make a DivX file with ac3 audio. If the user > doesn't > > > have ac3, they won't get sound. So, all files have a video stream > and > > > an audio stream in the same file. All DivX encoding applications > > > include a licensed mp3 encoder. > > > > > interoperability. ('It plays in QT, iTunes and ipod' isn't exactly > > > interoperability. It plays on VLC, Sony, Toshiba, Democracy > sounds a > > > little more interoperable to me). > > > > > >
