The part that fascinates is how so many people willingly submit to that competitive machine is all. Today's youth and all. Heh.
Oh, and I never published muched to Everyday Films, in fact, I haven't vlogged in half a year, nor done a podcast. So most feeds aside from blog are dead (it's all a universal feed, same url for everything) ER --- In [email protected], Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > At the risk of repeating myself, I agree that the strength of YouTube > is to have a place where you can have an audience and be seen. I > also agree that that has the potential for great power. And I'm not > rejecting YouTube on principle, or because I'm particularly > ideologically driven to have my own site, or so full of > 'individuality and wanting something better'. > > All the strengths you mention are great, but are all undercut for me > by the competitiveness at the center of YouTube - the ratings and > number of views, comments, honours, number of times honoured and > favourited. It drags my videos into being watched in the context of > how successful they've been, when all I want is to put some video up > there to be watched by some random people in unexpected places around > the world - to put the video at the center, not wrapped around by all > these judgements that interfere with the viewer's perception and my > enjoyment. > > On YouTube a few hundred views feels like a very, very different > thing to on a blog. It's my gift to strangers, and I don't have to > care if they don't like it. Even with a couple of hundred views, and > without really trying, I'm reaching out further I ever did when i > used to show my 'proper' shorts at short film festivals. > > What slightly depresses me is that there'll be lots of people out > there like me who just feel inspired every so often to film and edit > something and put it out there, who will find their engagement with > an audience all screwed up by YouTube's tone, and then they'll think > "Publishing on the internet is horrible" because all they've heard > about is YouTube, and they'll stop and never do it again. When they > could have had a very different non-competitive experience and made > their world a tiny bit happier and better. It's turning Online Video > into high school rules. Ugh. > > I don't really want to make money from it, mostly because I want to > be free to put up whatever I want without worrying about alienating > my regular large audience or drawing "BORING" and "YOU SUCK" > comments, and so growing and sustaining large audience numbers are > not important to me. Most people who post on YouTube would never > make money from it (whatever its competitive/popularity focus might > lead them to hope at first). > > Glad you're getting paid to vlog, though, and enjoying it. Always > liked your vlogs whenever I've seen them. I'm subscribed to Everyday > films with Eric Rice, but I guess it's wrong feed cos I'm not getting > anything through it. > > Rupert > > http://www.fatgirlinohio.org > http://feeds.feedburner.com/fatgirlinohio/ > > On 5 Mar 2007, at 08:35, Eric Rice wrote: > Yeah, we can argue about individuality and wanting something better > until the cows come home. Also, the expressive, personal, non- > promotional crowd might not be one of the best to ask this to... > > Being part of a 'place' where you have an audience and can be seen? > Ewww, stinky answer. > > I'd be curious if anyone who is a regular YouTuber even cares about > people going to their own site? Or, maybe contextually, their > myspace? And even then, everyone else is there. > > And ah, yes, the comments. Get popular enough or cover something that > has a wide > appeal, and the comments, that concentric circle 'conversation' (ask > Amanda about that) gets vicious. > > YouTube represents the flipside-- it's the mass reality of everday > people fitting snugly into that mode that the idealist inside of us > despises. It slapped RSS in the face, by debunking our ideals of > 'ohhh i wanna take it wiiiith meeeeee'. Apparently, that didn't seem > to be the case for a little part of the population. > > So, we ignore it, we embrace it, or we lock and load and pull on some > iron fists. > > It's more anarchy than democracy, but hey, both movements can have > little flags and > berets. > > Power! > > ER > > --- In [email protected], "Peter Van Dijck" > <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > I've always been interested in why young people prefer to post on > > youtube & myspace versus on their own (video)blog (for the > comments of > > course!) - in this group we seem to think having your own vlog is > much > > superior. > > > > But today I realized: my photos are on flickr, instead of having my > > own instance of some opensource script like Gallery - for the > > community aspect (and the superior functionality), so isn't that the > > same? > > > > Just a thought. > > P > > > > -- > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ > > my job: http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
