Yes... in the twittervision grain I could DEFINITELY see something
like videoblogging universes flash previews crossed with vlogmaps to
create a realtime display of videoblog posts around the world with
sweet little flash previews.  It might be a little hard for a server
to keep up, but I think it could be done.

Besides... web based transcoding services are now common, there's
atleast one open source transcoding package. Mux.am is based off of it
as is vixy.net.

What I'm really interested in is getting nathan to allow you to plug a
feed into mux.am... and have ALL vidoes in that feed transcoded into
10fp 3gp files that can play on any phone... and/or lowres flash that
can play in any browser.

It's a REAL simple concept... you plug your feed into mux.am... type
in your twitter user/pass... and then any videos you post to your blog
in addition to any thing you post on twitter will automatically be
cross posted to twitter with two little links... a twitter post might
look like this

> Was walking home from work today and caught a car accident on film
> 3gp: tinyurl.com/alsdkjaldkj
> swf: tinyurl.com/afkjsafh

Giving you your choice of viewing the 3gp or the swf file depending on
where you were viewing twitter at.

It would also be nice if twitter supported minimalistic audio clips
and photos as well. low quality and short clips are the key. Simple
filtration mechanism like mux.am could transparently prepare media for
low bit rate consumption.

This is what I've been talking about for years about getting "beyond
the desktop" with videoblogging... and how getting beyond the desktop
will *enhance the use of video as communications*... not just as a
form of entertainment.   Media including photos, audio and video
should become a ubiquitous part of everyday communications.

Sometimes words are appropriate, sometimes a picture is worth a
thousand words, sometimes video is the only way to capture the
moment... and sometimes as in song... or speaches audio is the way to
go.

Twitter certainly get's at the granularity of the experience... by
breaking bitstreams down farther they seem to become even more
organic.  I'm amazed at how much easier it is for people to
communicate when they're not trying to summarize it all up in one
post... instead... like IM they let thoughts flow across multiple
posts and lines.

How would video translate in this space?  Suddenly things like the
Nokia N-series and video phones make a lot more sense... it's less
about episodes... and intro's and outros become a mute point... and
more about stripping videos down to their bare essentials the meat of
the video.

I've said this before... but I think ultimately video and particularly
mobile video blogging will leadest further down the path to video
communications then "video conferencing" ever did.

I've fond of the idea that "the future is often nothing that we
expect, and yet so much more".

While video conferencing has been a continual failure in all but the
most niche arenas in manyways youtube and videoblogging in general are
fullfilling it's promise.

It may turn out... and to me it already has turned out... that
real-time 1 to 1 video communications is not the best form of video
communications... and maybe that it was real-time and that it was 1 to
1 are the key failures of video conferencing.

The beauty in vidoeblogging and indeed the keys to it's success are
that it's both that it is NOT realtime... and also one to many.   Oh,
and lets not forget that it's also not intrusive... you don't "reach
out and touch someone"... instead you SUBSCRIBE... you "reach out and
listen to someone".  I think these three key differences are at the
hart of videoblogging's success.

The closest thing I've come to seeing twitter for video is how Jan of
Faux Press posts her tiny little poor quality videos to her vlog from
her nokia phone.

Maybe there's a huge opportunity here. Maybe someone needs to make a
txtamerica or a twitter for video....  how about video dodgeball?  A
movlogging network.  One that is aimed PURELY at the niche of mobile
video.  Maybe the market is near ready?

Are there enough people out there with video phones?

The key would be to give users a mobile vlog which would accept video
only from phones... and where you could subscribe to other members
feeds.

Extremely simple. Extremely twitter of video.

The same thing could be said of flickr...

The key is to make it exclusively for movlog content... if the video
can only come from phones... then it'll mean it's live up-to-the
minute telepresence video... no delays... as close to realtime as
web-time gets. If the content was fresh and you could be assured of
opening your phone and finding videos from only minutes earlier from
your friends on this service it would be quite fun and interesting.
The key is... is there a critical mass of mobile-vloggers..  or should
I say... people with mobile video phones... I imagine this would
appeal to many people who have mobile video phones whom aren't even
using them.

So... there... there;s that... Sometime in the next three years there
will be atleast four mobile video social networks to recieve vc
funding.  Mark my words. It's the business plan of tomorrow.

Peace,

-Mike

On 3/30/07, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeroen was working on adding flv support from feeds into his project at
> MappedUp.com
> Keep an eye out.
> I'll ask him how its coming along.
>
> On 30 Mar 2007 11:59:26 -0700, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   I love this stuff to bits, love the way twittervision works, even
> > though Im not a fan of twitter itself really, my fractured
> > concentration span doesnt want things broken down into chunks quite
> > that small.
> >
> > Have dreamed of a vlogmap on steroids for a while, would love to see
> > an animated version of that with videos embedded in the map.
> >
> > Twingly floats my boat a lot too but I do so much prefer browser based
> > crossplatform stuff.
> >
> > When I used silly phrases like 'seeing stuff across time and space' in
> > the past, these are the sort of things I meant, although possibly with
> > more control over time, so the first service to offer a map mashed up
> > with a timeline, animtaed, with embedded video, wins some sort of
> > 'elbows not moaning for once, but congratulating' award.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Steve Elbows
> >
> > --- In [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Someone was saying yesterday that they have twittervision on all the
> > > time on their second screen.
> > > As soon as I looked at it for the first time, I saw a post by someone
> > > I knew from this group - marksmith - what are the odds? I refrain
> > > from further talk of synchronicity.
> > > Have you seen Twingly? Same kind of thing, but for blogs and
> > > 1,000,000x crazier
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIT-hfgOXY
> > >
> > >
> > > On 29 Mar 2007, at 20:05, sull wrote:
> > >
> > > have you seen http://twittervision.com ?
> > >
> > > Crazy.
> > >
> > > On 29 Mar 2007 11:53:54 -0700, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh, man!
> > > >
> > > > This is cool.
> > > >
> > > > Going to find your Auto-Twitter-Vlog post now...
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/29/07, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <rupert%
> >
> > > 40fatgirlinohio.org>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Today is my 2 year vlogiversary. I haven't posted nearly enough in
> > > > > that time, and most of my old stuff is offline.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've always wanted to post more inconsequential short moments, to
> > > > > document cool, beautiful or interesting things as they happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the end, I just film a lot of moments, and never post them
> > > because
> > > > > I don't want to clutter up my main vlog. Stupid.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got a Nokia N93 in January and thought that it would mean I would
> > > > > film a lot of short Moments and post straight from the phone, but I
> > > > > kept filming and not posting. More stupid.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought I would try and use videobloggingweek to force me to do
> > > > > it... but then there are other, longer-form things I also want
> > > to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > SO ANYWAY, I've only been Twittering for a week or so, but I
> > > love its
> > > > > immediacy and disposability - and a lot of the text moments
> > > recorded
> > > > > there remind me of what I wanted to do with vlogging, and with
> > > my N93.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems to me that these video moments belong more on Twitter than
> > > they
> > > > > do on a blog. They're for immediate consumption, and need the
> > > > > immediacy and disposability and Now-ness of Twitter, rather than
> > > > > being viewed later via feed or on a blog.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I checked it out, and there's a free browser-based tool at
> > > http://
> > > > > www.twitterfeed.com/ which takes any RSS feed and posts it to
> > > Twitter.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've set it up so that I can film a short moment on my N93,
> > > email it
> > > > > (via regular wifi) to Blip, then Twitterfeed.com automatically
> > > takes
> > > > > my Blip feed and posts it to Twitter - to http://www.twitter.com/
> > > > > twittervlog/
> > > > >
> > > > > The result is a Tweet which contains the post title and a
> > > TinyURL to
> > > > > the Blip video (and, if you want, a description in however many
> > > > > characters you have left.)
> > > > >
> > > > > ALL FREE! ALL AUTOMATIC! ALL THE TIME!
> > > > >
> > > > > God damn, I love the web, and all the people that make these things
> > > > > free.
> > > > >
> > > > > Twittervlog is a special video only Twitter account in addition
> > > to my
> > > > > regular one, but you could just set Twitterfeed to post your
> > > Feed to
> > > > > your regular Twitter account.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even better, we should set up a Videobloggingweek twitter account
> > > > > which runs off a feed of all the videobloggingweek videos as
> > > they're
> > > > > posted. I will set this up - which feed should I use? I'm confused
> > > > > about all the different ways we'll be centrally aggregating the
> > > > > vbweek videos. Let me know, if you have thoughts or concrete
> > > info on
> > > > > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I have a moment, I will put my Twittervlog process on the
> > > wiki.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rupert
> > > > > http://www.fatgirlinohio.org
> > > > > http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe
> > > > > http://www.twitter.com/twittervlog
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Faux Press - better than real
> > > > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
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