The thing is that most of the draconian elements to their proposals,
is already technically covered by law in many parts of the world. Its
just a question of there being any resources to follow up every
potential violation. Imagine how many libelous comments have been made
on the net, compared to how many every go anywhere near a court.

As for the rest of it, I presume that most states rely on society,
peer pressure, accepted norms, to provide some control over how civil
people are to eachother. Its not going to be regulated against very
often. Where the law does apply it often drags way behind the society
the law serves, eg the stand up comedians & rock stars who had to
endure lewd conduct type charges in decades past. But a culture thats
learnt to emulate such behaviour, teenagers who cant get enough of it,
and cant get enough of the internet, along with similar stuff from
many adults out there, makes it hard to see how the sheer volume of
this stuff could be policed by the state or volunteers on the net.

All I know is that this code isnt going to intimidate any
intimidators. Intimidation is a powerful tool that gets people to
shutup far more effectively than this code will, and that is a tragedy
but a human reality. There are many ironies in this field, such as the
potential intimidation w would face if lots of people in the
blogosphere attempted to deeply explore intimidation and coercion and
how humans use them, and how the internet is merely a new light shon
onto this sick underbelly of human 'civilisation', rather than a new
and shocking thing.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [email protected], "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> I have a really bad feeling about all this.
> 
> I know people have good intentions with all this.  But alot of things
> start out that way.
> 
> Hopefully this "code" stay voluntary.  (And people aren't forced to
obey it.)
> 
> 
> See ya
> 
> On 4/10/07, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/04/draft_bloggers_1.html
> >
> >  04.08.07
> >  Tim O'Reilly
> >
> >  Tim O'Reilly
> >  Draft Blogger's Code of Conduct
> >
> >  When I wrote my Call for a Blogging Code of Conduct last week, I
suggested some
> > ideas of what such a code might contain, but didn't actually put
forth a draft that
> > people could subscribe to. We're not quite there yet, but we have
a plan.
> >
> >  We've drafted a code of conduct that will eventually be posted on
bloggingcode.org,
> > and created a badge that sites can display if they want to link to
that code of conduct.
> > Civility Enforced Badge
> >
> >  But because we want a period of review, we don't want to finalize
that code yet. I've
> > put a draft below (and you'll see it's based closely on the
BlogHer Community
> > Guidelines that I linked to last week.) But we're also working
with wikia to put the
> > draft through a wiki-based review process on blogging.wikia.com.
(There's an easy
> > to remember shortcut link at http://blogging.wikia.com/wiki/BCC)
Please feel free to
> > join in and edit the wiki as well as encouraging others to do so.
We'll post the final
> > version on bloggingcode.org, along with the html to display the
badge and link to the
> > code.
> >
> >  (While wikis are great for developing the code, we don't want it
to be a moving target
> > once people have signed up for it.)
> >
> >  Here's the first draft:
> >
> >  We celebrate the blogosphere because it embraces frank and open
conversation. But frankness does not have to mean lack of civility. We
present this Blogger Code of Conduct in hopes that it helps create a
culture that encourages both personal expression and constructive
conversation.
> >
> >  1. We take responsibility for our own words and for the comments
we allow on our blog.
> >
> >  We are committed to the "Civility Enforced" standard: we will not
post unacceptable content, and we'll delete comments that contain it.
> >
> >  We define unacceptable content as anything included or linked to
that:
> >     - is being used to abuse, harass, stalk, or threaten others
> >     - is libelous, knowingly false, ad-hominem, or misrepresents
another person,
> >     - infringes upon a copyright or trademark
> >     - violates an obligation of confidentiality
> >     - violates the privacy of others
> >
> >  We define and determine what is "unacceptable content" on a
case-by-case basis, and our definitions are not limited to this list.
If we delete a comment or link, we will say so and explain why. [We
reserve the right to change these standards at any time with no notice.]
> >
> >  2. We won't say anything online that we wouldn't say in person.
> >
> >  3. We connect privately before we respond publicly.
> >
> >  When we encounter conflicts and misrepresentation in the
blogosphere, we make every
> > effort to talk privately and directly to the person(s)
involved--or find an intermediary who
> > can do so--before we publish any posts or comments about the issue.
> >
> >  4. When we believe someone is unfairly attacking another, we take
action.
> >
> >  When someone who is publishing comments or blog postings that are
offensive, we'll
> > tell them so (privately, if possible--see above) and ask them to
publicly make amends.
> >     If those published comments could be construed as a threat,
and the perpetrator
> > doesn't withdraw them and apologize, we will cooperate with law
enforcement to protect
> > the target of the threat.
> >
> >  5. We do not allow anonymous comments.
> >
> >  We require commenters to supply a valid email address before they
can post, though
> > we allow commenters to identify themselves with an alias, rather
than their real name.
> >
> >  6. We ignore the trolls.
> >
> >  We prefer not to respond to nasty comments about us or our blog,
as long as they
> > don't veer into abuse or libel. We believe that feeding the trolls
only encourages
> > them--"Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig
likes it." Ignoring public
> > attacks is often the best way to contain them.
> >
> >  anythinggoes2.jpg We also decided we needed an "anything goes"
badge for sites that
> > want to warn possible commenters that they are entering a
free-for-all zone. The text to
> > accompany that badge might go something like this:
> >
> >  This is an open, uncensored forum. We are not responsible for the
comments of any
> > poster, and when discussions get heated, crude language, insults
and other "off color"
> > comments may be encountered. Participate in this site at your own
risk.
> >
> >  ----------------------------------------------------------
> >               WWWhatsup NYC
> >  http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
> >  ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> -- 
>     Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
> 
>     charles @ reptile.ca
>     supercanadian @ gmail.com
> 
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