Yeah Id agree, it was easy to get distracted by h264 vs mpeg4 issues, but at the end of the day 3ivx is a much better mpeg4 encoder than quicktimes own. We probably should forget other opensource alternatives, and DivX of course, but then all the other file wrapper & ease of instructing people how o do this stuff easily comes into play.
So has anybody had a chance to try 3ivx 5 yet? The lack of chatter on this is surely a sign in itself that many people here who previously played it safe and stuck to mpeg4, have moved on to h264 at some point in the last 2 years. Just to be my usual h264 bore of a self, heres an incomplete list of devices that support h264: ipod appletv sony psp sony ps3 xbox360 hd-dvd and blueray use h264 (as well as mpeg2 and VC-1) nokia n95 little doubt that over time digital satellite, cable & over-the-air TV will also move to h264. With this in mind, who would bet against h264? Only in the browser is h264's domination not a near-total certainty. I still hope that one day video will form a part of web standards and be incorporated into browsers directly rather than through plugins such as quicktime. But it may not happen, who knows at this stage. Maybe its more likely once royalties arent payable on certain uses of h264? Id still like to help identify the h264 quality issues you werent happy about. Have you tried encoders other than quicktime? Got any screenshots of clips where the poor quality is visible? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This news re: youtube certainly helps to change my opinion about H. > 264's adoption potential. > > I think my prior comments on 3ivx went up against H.264 but I still > believe the main benefit of 3ivx is that it is a better alternative > to mpeg4 compression as an encoder. Its comparison to H.264 is really > just that, a comparison between two different kinds of things. > > Whenever there is a demand, its usually worth providing the extra > file format to fill it, so we've had both for awhile now. > > I always thought we would be really lucky if Apple could spark a home > ip-TV demand with their AppleTV like they did with the iPod, where > EVERYONE wants one or has one. Even though there are so many other > options, maybe Apple could kick it all in gear. Having all of YouTube > in H264 avail for d/l is a pretty good move if just to expedite > people hooking up.. ..perhaps. > > > On Jun 12, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Enric wrote: > > > From iLounge, http://tinyurl.com/2fq3t7 : > > > > ================= > > ...YouTube will soon be encoding videos in the H.264 > > streaming-efficient compression format preferred by Apple TV, and that > > all new videos submitted to YouTube as of the mid-June launch of the > > AppleTV update will be playable by the device. From then until fall, > > YouTube will be encoding its entire back-catalog in H.264 format, > > adding videos in chunks until everything is accessible to Apple TV > > users. Direct links and the on-screen keyboard-based search engine > > mentioned in our previous update will bring you to current and old > > videos alike.... > > ================= > > > > If available to all, easier to mash-up. > > > > -- Enric > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
