Michael, I'm happy to talk in public about this.
I remember your point last year and the Vloggies concept started out as a PodTech specific event (where you cherry picked Valerie's comments) we quickly saw that it was an opportunity for a community event. There were many people involved in the Vloggies not one person or company. It's cool to see how far the Vloggies came from some of our original posts on the wiki from valerie. I'm sure that the Vloggies will take on an even more expanded view this year due to all the growth in video. I'm happy to have private and public conversations my email is john at podtech dot net -----Original Message----- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Verdi Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:06 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone) Personally, I don't like the idea of an awards show at all. Last year I tried to argue that point but it was clear that so many people wanted one and that PodTech was determined to put one on that I tried to help make it good by offering suggestions and by being a judge. The main factor that had it be successful (though I guess PodTech lost money on it) was Irina. She was really the keeper of the Vloggies soul. Had it been left up to others at PodTech, we would have seen something much different. Here's a quote by PodTech's Valerie Cunningham (emphasis is her's) from the vloggies wiki back in August last year - http://vloggies.pbwiki.com/FrontPage.2006-08-21-17-50-17 : "VALERIE: [snip] - To be clear: there are two awards per category: "Favorite category name" and "Community Choice Award" We are giving OUR chosen favorite an award, and then announcing the community's choice. [snip] - We need to think of the categories in line with PodTech's affiliate content roadmap, ie Tech, News, Entertainment, Politics, Lifestyle - pretty much in that order. Also, we need to think global. PodTech India is in the content roadmap. Obviously it's pretty broad. WE SHOULD KNOW WHO OUR FAVORITE CATEGORY WINNERS ARE - RIGHT NOW. Simple - who are our target affiliate/sister videoblog sites? Top 50 - across all the categories. [snip] - So let's refine these categories please with above in mind and I'd like to see the top 50 list or whatever - we should know who we want to come to this event, who PodTech's VIPs are in this community, so to speak - again in line with our affiliate goals, etc. Can we see that list by Wed this week, Irina?" This is the direction things were headed before we started talking about it here. With Irina no longer at PodTech is this how things will go this time? John, this is why you have to talk about this here and not on the phone with someone. If you want to engage this community then engage us. You can't have private, offline conversations about things like this. For everyone else, if you don't like the way PodTech is handling things then DON'T LET THEM HANDLE IT. Don't participate in their awards show and don't accept any awards. If nobody recognizes "The Vloggies" then it doesn't matter who owns the trademark. If you still want awards then someone will have to organize the community to do it. - Verdi On 7/24/07, Kent Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Off-list? If you want to engage my professional services, contact my > agents. Barrett Garese at UTA. > > If you want to talk about the Vloggies, let's talk about the Vloggies > here in public. > > I support an open awards show that is owned by no company. I think that > Trademarking Vloggies gives your company too much control. The Oscars > are owned by the film industry, and the Emmys are owned by the TV > industry. There were several sponsors last year, don't they also have > as much right to the mark of the Vloggies as PodTech? > > Oh but you have more rights don't you? Because the person that came up > with the idea, the person that organized it and made it a success was on > your dime... The person that was just let go, right after the Trademark > was filed... > > By landgrabbing "Vloggies", you are trying to own an industry, which is > unconscionable. > > You guys are smart, you're just caught in a lot of bad decisions. > > You should donate that mark to the Creative Commons, or EFF, or create a > new non-profit that will run the awards. That would be the right thing > to do, and might start repairing the PR nightmare you guys are > experiencing right now. > > -Kent, askaninja.com > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Furrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Kent, > > Email me if you'd like to get involved and we can chat off list > > > > John -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs Yahoo! Groups Links