Good points, Jeffrey. And I agree that the suggestions put forth were good ones. Thanks for keeping me in check.
I like your reminder about the old-company/new-company point. Things won't go forward if we keep falling back on old company methodologies. Best to you, --Chris... --- In [email protected], "Jeffrey Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris, please stop trying to marginalize people for what they have said > here, then pat us on the back for having the conversation. Nobody said the > folks at Podtech were evil creatures. (i.e. there's a difference between > someone acting like an asshole and someone who IS an asshole) Most everyone > expressed disdain for their actions, and in one way or another expressed > disappointment that a company that had demonstrated a real commitment to > videobloggers themselves has shifted focus. And they weren't the best at > communicating about this internally or externally. > > Along with the criticisms, Chris, came many suggestions (e.g. give the > Vloggies trademark to a non-profit, as Kent suggested/demanded) and the > statement that we know Podtech can be better in the midst of all that > happens at a startup because we've seen other companies do it. Nobody was > lambasting Podtech's strategy. Discussing it and perhaps disagreeing with > it? Sure. Lambasting it, no. Where the vitriol came is in the tactics. > People figuring something out is more than fine. It's great. What's not OK > is being disrespectful to people and communities and using that operational > state as an excuse. In general, this is what is being said here. It may not > be diluted by the sterilized niceties of corporatespeak, but that's the > exactly the point. People here, in general, are passionately unwilling to > accept old-media and old-corporate type behaviors. We have all had more than > enough of that. > > I have heaps of respect for you and what you do with organizing communities, > Chris. This is why I follow you on twitter, and this is why I subscibe to > your blog. But I cannot tell you how off-putting it is to me that you come > here as pretty much a non-participant on this list with what I see as a very > well-intentioned but paternalistic preachy/coachy tone , as if we're wayward > children who should know better. > > > > On 29/07/07, [chrisbrogan.com] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My take on most things is that I try to find what's helpful, and what > > I can learn from. A big healthy chorus of "you suck" is educational, > > truly, because it shows that I'm way off base. > > > > For PodTech, I imagine they're trying to feel out where they want to > > go next. They might have made some rough steps. Maybe they bit off > > more than they can chew. But if you're saying that they're all a bunch > > of evil creatures, that can't really be true, can it? > > > > Because it's people trying to figure something out. Right? They're > > just out there trying to get something together, and maybe their next > > go around will be better. > > > > What *is* great and amazing, however, about this group, is that they > > do a great job of keeping the conversation going, in all its flavors. > > There's a lot here to absorb. And people interested in the video space > > should always keep an ear to the ground in here, and be willing to > > participate. > > > > Elbows, you hit some good notes from time to time. They just often > > come couched in vitriol. : ) > > > > --Chris Brogan... > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
