Plenty of wisdom there from Rupert :) And yeah I am surrounded by portable devices & phones that can play video but I dont use them. The N95 has all the features but I dont find it fun to use, the screen isnt quite big enough and the UI is better but still not good enough.
But now that Ive got an ipod touch, I can see what all this iphone fuss was about. Im impressed. UI wise, video wise & lovely touchscreen size, this puts the all important fun into the device, and makes it more likely I would actually watch video on it. Obviously this touch is only wifi connected, not a mobile, and I really dont like the sound of the speed & bitrate settings for iphone video over Edge. But yeah, its so much fun to actually surf the web on this thing compared to other devices, that I am now more optimistic about the future of portable devices, I think they will catch on when they are this much fun. I stand by my earlier ponderings that the features of a nokia N95 combined with the UI and touchscreen of the iphone, would be the killer device. If that doesnt catch on, then I dont think anything pocketsized will, and I give up on mobile video. And as the web surfing is so much fun, but still a bit of a challenge ont he small screen, I am drawn to sites that are optimised for such devices as the iphone and ipod touch, and I see things like tumblelogs as being a potential good fit, though blogs with a simple theme work well too. Just a shame about the video issue, 3gp is such poor quality Ive never really looked at it properly but maybe there is a demand for it out there, not convinced. Its not hard to anticipate that most mobile devices will eventually be capable of playing back h264, but the wide variety of connection speeds of mobile devices, will probably mean that one clear format type & bitrate & res may not emerge to dominate. Stuck with 3gp for a long time, ugh, oh well. Im not sure I'lle ver do stuff with video over cellular data networks, but wifi with decent devices is a lot more promising. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Pat, > > Yeah, the unfortunate truth of video codecs is that you can't make > something for everyone. > > Flash seems like the perfect Mac/Windows solution, since nearly all > computers have Flash player, or can download it quickly. > > But Flash doesn't work on phones. Or at least, Flash 8 & 9 won't work > on my video phone. Gah. Flash 7 Youtube videos will, though. But > now they're being converted to H264, which won't. > > The one format that does seem to be accepted by almost all phones > that play video is 3gp. > > But at what resolution? 160x120 or thereabouts, I think. Tiny. > > If you get VisualHub, and get it to pump out multiple versions of > your file, and upload all those files to Blip, and then get Blip to > crosspost to your blog, you'll get a nice post with all your file > formats linked to. MP4, WMV, 3GP, FLV. > > Then, if you publish with Wordpress, you can use something like the > nice plugin that the ShowInABox.tv guys have made, to create format- > specific feeds. > > So it'll be possible for you to 'easily' offer podcasting in > different formats. > > But I have to ask, how many people will actually watch on a phone? > Like Jan, I make videos using my phone - a Nokia N93, which has > serious video capabilities - but I've never ever watched or > subscribed to anybody else's video on it. And I'm someone who's very > into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you > won't know until you try. > > Rupert > http://twittervlog.tv/ > > On 23 Oct 2007, at 00:03, Patrick Cook wrote: > > Hi everyone: > > On 10/22/07, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but > > still ... that odd. :-P > > > > I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as > > avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, > > I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container > > and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. > > I'll test that to be sure. > > I don't think this will work. > > I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones > without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video > every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing > THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. > > So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, > but not others while other software will encode will only encode for > only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and > that's it. > > Cheers :D > > -- > Pat Cook > Denver, Colorado > PODCASTS - > **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ > PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ > PAT'S HEALTH & MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - > http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ > YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ > THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow > THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ > THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
