I'm definitely not a regular contributor but I agree with David. This format just doesn't seem to be working as people keep unsubscribing and whenever there *is* an interesting discussion, it ends in bitterness.
A forum would probably work much much better. In order to properly make the switch we could start a campaign where everyone mentions the new forum in their latest vlog. We could provide instructions on how to forward all messages to your inbox. I'd be happy to create a tutorial. Are there any forums that are ahead of their time that we can look at and discuss? Patrick On Nov 13, 2007 4:02 PM, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Rather sad when a group that tries to push new media subscribes and > restricts itself to old > technology like email. > > If this was a forum, there would be post and threads. If there were > personal attacks and > such, a moderator could delete the post or simply close the thread. That's > the beauty of > forums. They are moderated. People would never get away with some of the > crap that > goes on here. If someone slagged someone in one of the Help areas, a > moderator would > just remove that post. > > As I said way back when the forum idea was brought up, I prefer forums. My > inbox is > already full of things that require my attention. I dont really want more > email to distract > me or clutter up my mind. You say you would never go to a forum yet you > visit your inbox > all the time? I dont understand that thinking. As Mr Meade said, you could, > if you so > desired, have everything emailed to you anyways with a forum. > > Of course...if nothing changes, then nothing changes I guess. I didnt start > the group and > was not involved when the ground rules were laid out and will probably > leave the group > long before it ceases to exist. > > For what it's worth, and not like they matter at all, those are only my > opinions. > > > David > http://www.taoofdavid.com > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > --- In [email protected], "Rupert Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Yeah, a lot of us read in threads anyway, in gmail or whatever. > > > > Even if each discussion was in its own 'room', with space to continue > > a discussion for longer than this list allows, those rooms/threads > > would still be poisoned and killed by personal slanging matches and > > shouting. > > > > I need my emails, too - I'd never visit a forum. But that's just me. > > > > I wonder if what we need is a Blog. Kind of like a Yahoo VB List > > Extra. Longer discussions could be taken out of the group and > > continued on a blog for discussion in text comments and video > > comments that we can subscribe to? > > > > Rupert > > --- In [email protected], "David Howell" <taoofdavid@> > > wrote: > > > > > > It's a real shame that this group never went the way of a "forum". > > Would could have all > > > those things you listed in different sections on the forum and then > > people could post in > > > the respective areas. > > > > > > Those looking for help wouldnt have to be inundated with things they > > have no interest in > > > and people that want to duke it out could do so off in a different > area. > > > > > > Hindsight... > > > > > > David > > > http://www.taoofdavid.com > > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Jay dedman" <jay.dedman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > We all get heated about issues - fine - but if people have got > > > > > something negative to say about another person, about their > > > > > motivations or anything that's likely to lead to a personal > > slanging > > > > > match, perhaps they could show us the courtesy of having their open > > > > > and frank discussion on a blog and linking to it here. > > > > > > > > andrew did blog it here: http://dembot.com/post/19305296 > > > > i hear you though. Substance in discussions is necessary. > > > > We are trying to help each other do better than before. > > > > > > > > after one of the blow-ups last year, I made a list last year of what > I > > > > thought the Videoblogging list was for: > > > > 1. help new people to start videoblogging > > > > 2. discuss new tech and its implications > > > > 3. discuss what we need...and build it! > > > > 4. let new companies know what is expected community behavior (after > > > > we agree what it is) > > > > 5. discuss creator's rights > > > > 6. gossip and fight > > > > > > > > we are certainly a chaotic crowd and "gossip and fight" is just a > > group dynamic. > > > > doesnt mean we got to encourage or stand for it....but here we are. > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > Video: http://ryanishungry.com > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ > > > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > > > > > > > > > > > >
