Good writeup, Steve. I still can't see the incentive for ANYONE to accommodate any old frame size.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well its certainly true that many people are used to the video they get from the net being > square pixel aspect ratio, and it may seem strange to want otherwise. > > There probably is a logic to not wanting to resize to 1920, its more pixels so the > compression/quality may be less optimal than leaving it at 1440. And the resize may not > be amazingly optimised quality, though the same would probably be true for applications > that do resizing on the fly during playback. Whereas if some of the audience were actually > going to watch the file on a screen that has rectangular pixels, theyd be best off with the > 1440 version, avoiding any quality loss introducted by resizing. > > Either way it doesnt surprise me much if blip and others havent supported this, that many > would find it confusing, or that a few people might expect this feature. It could be easy > for them to fix or not easy at all. I guess there are 2 ways for them to fix it, either the > encoder needs to detect the correct aspect raio for pixels and choose a 16:9 output > resolution, or the flash player itself needs to know to resize such footage appropriately > during playback. Ive no idea what capabilities flash has in that regard. > > If I ever got round to posting video I would probably resize up to 1920x1080 or down to > 1280x760 or 960x540, because the potential complications from giving people non- > square pixel video may outweigh the quality concerns Ive mentioned. Not that this is really > true if you are using formats where the pixel aspect ratio is properly recorded in the video > file and honoured by the playback software. > > Did Apple ever fix some similar issues with quicktime that could lead to wrong aspect ratio > of videos converted to ipod etc formats? > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <billcammack@> wrote: > > > > Verdi, that's my point, exactly. My Canon HV-20 shoots 1440x1080. > > This is why I asked Jake what he has that's going to play it back. > > There's no reason that I can think of that blip should support those > > frame dimensions. > > > > Jake, if all those media players play back your 1440x1080 file in the > > correct dimensions (meaning that if you filmed a square, it looks like > > a square, and not a rectangle in Windows Media Player, iTunes, etc), > > then I don't see what the problem is. > > > > I'm not knocking your desire to have a file hosted in those > > dimensions. :) I'm trying to understand what the benefit is to you of > > having a file like that hosted. > > > > For example, if someone posted that they were trying to get blip to > > host 60x200 videos, I would assume they were trying to make videos > > that fit as banner ads. > > > > -- > > Bill Cammack > > BillCammack.com > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" > > <michaelverdi@> wrote: > > > > > > Right - was just going to say that it sounds like HDV. You have to > > > compress that first into some sort of quicktime or wmv, converting it > > > to square pixels in the process so that it's one of those resolutions > > > that Bill said - 1280 x 720, 640 x 360, etc. > > > - Verdi > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2008 4:27 PM, Jake Ludington <jake@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Repost your question here: > > > > > <http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/blip-users/> > > > > > > > > Will do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of file do you have that has the dimensions of 1440x1080? > > > > > > > > Every HDV camcorder on the planet records at 1440x1080. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16x9 = 1920x1080 or 1280x720 or 640x360 or 480x270 or 320x180 > > > > > > > > 16x9 also = 1440x1080 displayed with a non-square pixel aspect > > ratio. It > > > > also equals the less common 1280x1080 displayed with a non-square > > pixel > > > > aspect ratio. And let's not forget our dear friend 960x720. If > > only aspect > > > > ratios were as simple as you describe them here. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you have that plays back 1440x1080? > > > > > > > > Windows Media Player, iTunes, RealPlayer, VLC, and the list goes on. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jake Ludington > > > > > > > > http://www.jakeludington.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://michaelverdi.com > > > http://freevlog.org > > > http://nscape.tv > > > > > >
